It looks interesting, but not enough for me to login, yet.
You need to add a few screen shots, demos, etc., to show me why I should consider this instead of Huboard or Trello (you don't need to compare yourself to these, just have some simple workflows with the free tool to make it clear why pintask is better).
Also, while it is "free for life" you should "respect" current conventions for sites like this: You need a pricing link, a page on which you reinforce that basic functionality is free, and that extensions are what people buy. People are used to those conventions, it makes it easier for them to absorb your message without forcing them to think too much, without violating their expectations in a current website.
Speaking of this, I should be able to browse the extension store without logging in. Also, pricing needs to tell me if the extension price is per user per month, per project per month, per enterprise per month, etc. If those prices are per enterprise, they seem like good deals, but if they are per user, they start adding up so fast that free seems more like a playground gateway drug than anything else.
Finally, enterprise customers WANT to pay for your basic service: They want to give you their money to guarantee uptime, have a number to call, etc.
(Personal irritant: You may require cookies to get something done, but not to browse - the page loads blank when cookies are disabled (I used a cookie manager; I'm in the minority there, but I'm the kind of user you want early on :->). Require cookies only when they are actually required - and be sure to indicate that your site uses them, so that you remain on the good side of the law in various jurisdictions).
tl;dr: Looks good, too little there to incite me to actually take the action. Don't go overboard, though, you're almost there.
All of that. I shouldn't have to give you my information to see what's for sale—you haven't come close to convincing me you're selling anything I want to buy yet.
Actually, there are demo videos, just scroll down the page.
Thanks for the tip, I'll make a separate page for pricing.
As for browsing extensions store: I've already made landing pages for the best extensions, yet they don't comprise a full store-like experience. I guess you're right, there should be a full storefront for those who want to check it out without logging in.
A quick fix is to grab the video and throw it right on the top of that page. I have 27" Mac Display and I still had to scroll below the page to see your sell.
I was also confused by the 2 offers. What was the difference?
(Please take this constructively. I think you have something that looks smooth once I saw it.)
I've just tried doing it the fast way, but videos just popped out of nowhere, lowering aesthetic value. I'll definitely ask the designer to do something about it, so that videos show up on the first screen.
These are 2 different extension. One is mirroring, a very powerful tool (like symlinks, but even easier). The other is time tracking without pressing any "Start"/"Stop" buttons.
Great interface, and I can definitely see the advantage of being able to add extensions so that it is customized to the specific workflow I am looking for without the junk I don't want.
I think this is one of the first commercial quality meteor applications I have seen, which says a lot of the dev team but also shows meteor is a platform capable of at least getting the job done if not doing it well.
Question: Do you anticipate allowing people to write their own extensions / having some sort of API?
Thanks! Meteor really proved itself as a capable platform. We hit a few issues, but those were resolved rather quickly.
Yes, we already allow people to write their own extensions. For quick stuff, there's a built-in code editor: http://joxi.ru/SFJNUxjKTJBvQrogwYE. And for large extensions, there's an "Add your extension" button in the Extensions store.
In fact, we'll allow people to monetize their extensions, in a micro-App-store fashion.
Right now extensions are just loaded as external JS files. In near future, they will be loaded inside iframes with "sandbox" attribute + specific APIs injected into iframes.
There will also be an auditing process if you want your extension to be featured in the store. But you'll always be able to just add an extension and send a link to friend.
Interesting price hack: $1/mo (1 left), $3/mo (5 left). Are these escalating, à la Pinboard? Useful for price discovery, though up-from-the-bottom nudges artificial asymptotes (see pricing discontinuities).
Yes, they escalate up to a predefined list price (also shown on extension card). I just wanted to thank early adopters by giving them a discount. Do you think it's OK or not?
Is there any way to share a board via URL, without requiring users to sign in? I don't want to make it public or have it show up in search results, I just want to be able to share it with people who just need to view it but wont want to mess with creating an account.
If that's available (and I just can't find it), then this would be a great solution for me!
Thanks for the idea! It's not available right now (you can either invite or make it public), but seems to be a good addition, so it's possible to see that in future.
Looks interesting, but many Trello users have tons of loyalty to Trello. Getting them to switch is going to be difficult. There are plenty of Trello clones, and you don't offer any screenshots or examples.
wow the ui is really nice - i built my own tool exactly like this but the ui didnt end up as beautiful. i know other tools have some accessibility problems and built my ui similar to yours to solve them. this looks really cool.
i couldnt figure out how to monetize my app - i have to say the plugin store is a good idea. gj!
There is built-in code editor: http://joxi.ru/v3lNUxjKTJA4Eous4Gs Right now, it lags sometimes, but we'll migrate to Meteor 0.8 and this issue will be resolved. Also, at the bottom of editor, there is a link to http://wiki.pintask.me/wiki/How_to_write_an_extension with some info to get started. If you have specific questions, please reach me: Denis.D.Gorbachev at gmail
The mode could be a bit more obvious, ie whether you're using the Move or Embed tools is signified only by a subtle border line, so it took me a while to figure out how to embed cards and I can't really tell what mode I'm n from a casual glance. This will become more important as more tools are added, I'd imagine.
Color coding seems pretty arbitrary as the labels aren't descriptive, and there's no filtering. But I guess these can be hacked into being :)
Code editor look spretty bare, although I appreciate the Wiki link and again it's early days. Maybe have a little 'Hello World' code by default, or even a few lines of advice as a comment so the window doesn't look so empty? Casual hackers such as myself have a phobia of blank pages because it's not obvious where to begin.
One small annoyance: Initials. I have a double-barreled name (Firstname Surname-Surname) but it rendered my initials as FS, which was quite confusing because I'm not used to seeing that letter combination at all, and it wasn't until I added an avatar that I realized it was my initials.
I'd do it as FSS, ie filtering on capital letters rather than the first letter in a string. But I'm sure someone else would want it as FS-S or something.
That was my first thought, but there's a catch: user avatars or initials should be same width. Is there a way to both fit your and designer requirements?
My answer to such questions is always 'fire the designer,' but I suspect that is not helpful to you :)
TBH I could live without the initials altogether and just have a blank avatar - not least because your upload process is already super-transparent, I appreciated being able to connect with so many services 'right out of the box'.
Hackable would be if it was OS IMO like the other Trello clones which are completely OS like tyto being able to host your own and tweak everything to your needs.
Seems I am wrong somewhere. Reached this discussion as part of google search and found accidently I have used the same name and similar concept :(. Anyway this is just my hobby program and no plans to commercialize it. Let me check the name if I start getting users - http://www.secfor.net/
Again, it is also may be hackable as I was not so serious about coding and was concentrating just about making it a reality.
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[ 590 ms ] story [ 2686 ms ] threadYou need to add a few screen shots, demos, etc., to show me why I should consider this instead of Huboard or Trello (you don't need to compare yourself to these, just have some simple workflows with the free tool to make it clear why pintask is better).
Also, while it is "free for life" you should "respect" current conventions for sites like this: You need a pricing link, a page on which you reinforce that basic functionality is free, and that extensions are what people buy. People are used to those conventions, it makes it easier for them to absorb your message without forcing them to think too much, without violating their expectations in a current website.
Speaking of this, I should be able to browse the extension store without logging in. Also, pricing needs to tell me if the extension price is per user per month, per project per month, per enterprise per month, etc. If those prices are per enterprise, they seem like good deals, but if they are per user, they start adding up so fast that free seems more like a playground gateway drug than anything else.
Finally, enterprise customers WANT to pay for your basic service: They want to give you their money to guarantee uptime, have a number to call, etc.
(Personal irritant: You may require cookies to get something done, but not to browse - the page loads blank when cookies are disabled (I used a cookie manager; I'm in the minority there, but I'm the kind of user you want early on :->). Require cookies only when they are actually required - and be sure to indicate that your site uses them, so that you remain on the good side of the law in various jurisdictions).
tl;dr: Looks good, too little there to incite me to actually take the action. Don't go overboard, though, you're almost there.
Thanks for the tip, I'll make a separate page for pricing.
As for browsing extensions store: I've already made landing pages for the best extensions, yet they don't comprise a full store-like experience. I guess you're right, there should be a full storefront for those who want to check it out without logging in.
I was also confused by the 2 offers. What was the difference?
(Please take this constructively. I think you have something that looks smooth once I saw it.)
I've just tried doing it the fast way, but videos just popped out of nowhere, lowering aesthetic value. I'll definitely ask the designer to do something about it, so that videos show up on the first screen.
These are 2 different extension. One is mirroring, a very powerful tool (like symlinks, but even easier). The other is time tracking without pressing any "Start"/"Stop" buttons.
I think this is one of the first commercial quality meteor applications I have seen, which says a lot of the dev team but also shows meteor is a platform capable of at least getting the job done if not doing it well.
Question: Do you anticipate allowing people to write their own extensions / having some sort of API?
Yes, we already allow people to write their own extensions. For quick stuff, there's a built-in code editor: http://joxi.ru/SFJNUxjKTJBvQrogwYE. And for large extensions, there's an "Add your extension" button in the Extensions store.
In fact, we'll allow people to monetize their extensions, in a micro-App-store fashion.
2. Mirroring extension solves the hottest issues on Trello dev board. Here's how you use it: http://joxi.ru/lFFNUxjKTJCFQk-Gd9Q
(Cool project Den - best of luck!)
There will also be an auditing process if you want your extension to be featured in the store. But you'll always be able to just add an extension and send a link to friend.
(Thanks for kind words!)
If that's available (and I just can't find it), then this would be a great solution for me!
i couldnt figure out how to monetize my app - i have to say the plugin store is a good idea. gj!
Http://jh3y.github.io/tyto
"Pintask promise: we will always keep the service running. And if anybody tries to shut it down, we will open-source it."
Color coding seems pretty arbitrary as the labels aren't descriptive, and there's no filtering. But I guess these can be hacked into being :)
Code editor look spretty bare, although I appreciate the Wiki link and again it's early days. Maybe have a little 'Hello World' code by default, or even a few lines of advice as a comment so the window doesn't look so empty? Casual hackers such as myself have a phobia of blank pages because it's not obvious where to begin.
One small annoyance: Initials. I have a double-barreled name (Firstname Surname-Surname) but it rendered my initials as FS, which was quite confusing because I'm not used to seeing that letter combination at all, and it wasn't until I added an avatar that I realized it was my initials.
That little nitpick aside, I like it a lot!
By the way, how should we render initials like yours?
TBH I could live without the initials altogether and just have a blank avatar - not least because your upload process is already super-transparent, I appreciated being able to connect with so many services 'right out of the box'.
Again, it is also may be hackable as I was not so serious about coding and was concentrating just about making it a reality.