> When these points fail, Metro-North — the nation's largest commuter railroad with 280,000 daily passengers — is completely cut off from Manhattan.
It's the nation's second largest when going by ridership (the number cited) to the LIRR with 334,000 passengers[0]. Both the LIRR and Metro-North are commuter rail systems for New York and are both MTA-owned/-operated, along with the subway, bus[1], etc.
The MTA is launching a $120 million project to "storm-proof" the Long Beach branch of the LIRR this year (among a myriad of other plans).[2]
Correct, e.g., NY <-> BOS. Amtrak also owns the tunnels under the east river that LIRR trains go through. Any problems there and the MTA likes to blame (sometimes rightfully so) Amtrak.
I grew up in the Hudson Valley -- this is truly one of the most beautiful stretches in the world. At points, you're essentially surrounded by the river on both sides.
I really think climate change needs to be presented to the public as an economic problem. Our infrastructure is going to continue to get hammered, costing billions, and we're essentially subsidizing it.
Prob is that waterfront real-estate in Westchester[1] is just white privledge. And all waterfronts are geologically (not climate-related) unstable. So basically rich white people want perpetual status-insurance. The climate angle is a red-herring.
The economic cost of natural disasters--NY, CA, and FL--is all related to RE development ("upscale") of unstable geography.
Interesting point. In California this issue exists with high-end real estate on mud-slide and fire-prone areas, like Malibu. Things that would make a difference, like controlled burns, are fought by homeowners who don't want to look at charred landscape -- and as a result the the LAFD spends enormous resources on heroic measures. [1]
Climate change will affect hydrology on a mass scale, making huge swaths of land and infrastructure poorly suited to the future environment. It is a horrific mistake, and future generations will wonder how in the hell we were so stupid.
I've read a lot of stupid stuff about climate change, but never anything as stupid as somebody claiming that the only problem is waterfront real estate. Congratulations: you wrote the stupidest thing that anybody has ever said about climate change. Your mother should be proud.
The cost of building and maintaining a 2.5 foot wall next to the entire rail line is likely a rounding error compared to the cost of upkeep of the rail line and trains. In other words, trivial sea level rise is a non-issue economically.
To me the bigger issue is wetland loss since flood walls will likely prevent the replacement of higher-elevation wetlands.
I wonder how many climate-changer denier politicans will attempt to legislate to prevent Metro-North from considering climate change in their future planning - the same way NC did that:
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[ 4.2 ms ] story [ 51.0 ms ] threadIt's the nation's second largest when going by ridership (the number cited) to the LIRR with 334,000 passengers[0]. Both the LIRR and Metro-North are commuter rail systems for New York and are both MTA-owned/-operated, along with the subway, bus[1], etc.
The MTA is launching a $120 million project to "storm-proof" the Long Beach branch of the LIRR this year (among a myriad of other plans).[2]
[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_commuter_...
[1] Except out in the 'burbs, our buses got spun off and privatized somewhat recently
[2] http://www.thelirrtoday.com/2014/04/storm-proofing-long-beac...
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=resources/traffic&...
#1 and #2 spots differences in ridership..? Is that a typo?
I really think climate change needs to be presented to the public as an economic problem. Our infrastructure is going to continue to get hammered, costing billions, and we're essentially subsidizing it.
Doesn't matter. If you don't think it's going to happen it doesn't matter what kind of problem it is...
(But, yes -- it's a remarkably difficult sell, as we've seen.)
The economic cost of natural disasters--NY, CA, and FL--is all related to RE development ("upscale") of unstable geography.
[1] Hudson Valley/Fairfield CT etc.
1: http://books.google.com/books/about/Ecology_of_fear.html?id=...
I've read a lot of stupid stuff about climate change, but never anything as stupid as somebody claiming that the only problem is waterfront real estate. Congratulations: you wrote the stupidest thing that anybody has ever said about climate change. Your mother should be proud.
To me the bigger issue is wetland loss since flood walls will likely prevent the replacement of higher-elevation wetlands.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-...