This is a neat idea. It would be cool to somehow allow you to add a list of recipients that should receive the link once it's pinned, but I guess that takes away from the simplicity of it.
We (as developers of mailpin) use the services ourselves:
1. Ad hoc image album. Put a bunch of images as attachments in an email and send to p@mailp.in to create a simple page.
2. Forward company receipts to p@mailp.in and create a page, and share the link in coworkers ... (this sounds weird ... but it works well for us ...)
3. Forward marketing spams to create page, and publicly share such pages to denounce those spammers :)
4. Forward paper acceptance latters or other letters to create pages, and share them to show off -- vanity!
5. Ad hoc blogging ... Don't want to have an account, don't want people to follow me. But occasionally, we still want to say something and share to Friends that we really trust.
6. Create a playlist of youtube videos. Put a bunch of youtube links and send to p@mailp.in. A page with embedded videos will be created. We don't have youtube accounts ... sorry ... but still want to share a bunch of videos with friends ...
7. Tweet more than 140 characters. Create a page with short url, and tweet!
There would be more use cases. The point is, we want something dead simple. No registration, no app (well, email client is still needed ...), and private.
Thanks for the update of what went through your minds. Keep track of how customers use it. You will likely be surprised by what actually is done with it.
This is an excellent idea—I've received many requests from people who want to be able to use the BeeLine Reader browser plugins to read their email. This would accomplish that goal. Even without a JS/CSS helper, this is still really awesome because people can use this tool in combination with our browser plugins. Please contact me (nick@BeeLineReader.com) if you end up allowing JS/CSS helpers so that we can work with you to make ours compatible. Thanks again for this awesome product!
What do you mean? Yes, he posted another message endorsing mailp.in in the comments and here he's reaching out for a collaboration. I don't see why it would be spam just because he's mentioning his product.
It seems primarily because his comments aren't adding significant value without mentioning his product. Take out the product, and it's basically "Awesome!".
A low value comment + product mentions = spammy smell.
Seems like I am getting downvoted for some reason. Let me clarify a bit of things here. The product he is talking about is a browser plugin, which is something that claims that speeds up reading by coloring the sentences.
This has no relation whatsoever with the OP's product. It is saying, "Hey great stuff! Check out my unrelated product in the link, maybe we can collaborate."
I don't agree. He purposed how they could collaborate. Bee Line Reader is a great tool which a lot of people on HN use and not something random. I definitely see how it could be used with mailp.in.
wow, really sorry to have set off your spam-alert. I think their solution is really awesome and a great complement to our tool. I couldn't have made my point without mentioning what my browser plugin does, which is why I included the name (but no link here, mind). If two posts makes me a spammer, then so be it, but I'm mostly just trying to encourage mailpin to consider the opportunity to collaborate with browser plugin companies, which is something they may not have thought of.
- Where's your privacy policy detailed? With the nature of the service (gathering email addresses etc) you could head-off lots of questions with that.
- A default serif font drags anything down. For me personally I'd prefer another font.
- You sensibly replace emails, but other links like 'unsubscribe' remain intact, which could be problematic (don't worry, you'll still get your costco emails although it can sometimes lead to real emails/names).
- I guess grouping and parsing is the next step, i.e. process them and provide features around them a la tripit. Is that the direction you might take it?
"Where's your privacy policy detailed? With the nature of the service (gathering email addresses etc) you could head-off lots of questions with that."
We haven't worked out a formal privacy policy ... but of course, user privacy is our top priority! We won't use user emails for anything else. In fact, from the post page, you can't find your email address.
"A default serif font drags anything down. For me personally I'd prefer another font."
We are still improving on the UI ... We would appreciate if you tell us your preferred font :)
"You sensibly replace emails, but other links like 'unsubscribe' remain intact, which could be problematic (don't worry, you'll still get your costco emails although it can sometimes lead to real emails/names)"
We also take care of unsubscribe part if the unsubscribe url contains your email address.
"I guess grouping and parsing is the next step, i.e. process them and provide features around them a la tripit. Is that the direction you might take it?"
Definitely there are many possibilities to explore from what we have right now. We'd like to hear users comments / critiques / suggestions first.
Just to clarify what I meant by the 'unsubscribe' part, many newsletters (like your Costco example from the OP) contain an unsubscribe link without an email but with a unique id in the href. When clicking this you often get to a page that then lets you unsubscribe and sometimes also see who the address was subscribed too, which defeats the purpose. I'm not sure what would be the ideal solution, but you could hit it with a hammer and remove all hrefs from the content in the email DOM, or perhaps parse explicitly for unsubscribe links (harder, as they vary, a bit of NLP etc). Alternatively, just consider the page as 'not for hostiles', in that the user should only share with people who wouldn't hunt for mischief in the first place.
For next steps and parsing, it really depends on if you want to store a user graph your end, i.e. do you want to also initiate the 'share' and know who is looking at the link? If you do then the features go in one direction (collaboration, conversations, actionable stuff) but if you don't want that then it's sort of a different animal (formatting, i.e. galleries, content suggestions and the like).
For a font, Helvetica Neue or anything in that family is all the rage ;)
Please consider keeping the default serif font. It lends an air of humble authenticity to the service, giving the impression that it's hosted by some no-BS people who want an alternative to the glossy and boring options for social media.
Good! I created a similar thing last year when Posterous died; it sill exists and although it never got any traction I still use it for my blog; it's called urgeous.com and has an API that lets users use it as a service (posts can be displayed from your own domain while being hosted by Urgeous).
Your positionning is certainly superior though, because 'mail2web' is simpler and more fun than 'yet another blogging platform that uses email'...
I never got around to turning attachments on because I was afraid of the hosting costs; how do you plan on dealing with those?
"I never got around to turning attachments on because I was afraid of the hosting costs; how do you plan on dealing with those?"
As long as users don't delete their posts, we keep them (including attachments) there. If we are running out of storage space, we can add more machines :)
"One question: how long are the URL and the content preserved?"
You decide. If you don't delete it yourself, it'll be there forever.
And it's private. You decide who to share with. You decide whether to keep it or not.
We will commit to improving mailpin, making it a robust and useful service.
If you put your link to public places like hacker news, then google will find it.
If you simply create a post page and keep it to yourself or share in a closed social network (e.g., IM, facebook private group ...) that cannot be indexed by google, then you are good.
That said, you decide to what degree you want to share your page.
Can you add so that people can append their emails / attachments to the existing page? Even SMS messages? You can add twitter message to it latter on...
Sweet! Thank you. I just used your service apply for PIEPDX Startup Incubator just a few seconds ago. I needed a quick way to create an online photo gallery and just emailed the pics to p@mailp.in. Private by default, no account needed, and easier than min.us
This is a HUGE pet-peeve of mine because I have a habit of selecting text while I'm reading. And I'm definitely not alone. I don't understand why sites continue to do this.
Nice! We've been working on a similar project http://jokund.com
You just send an email and any Cc'ed people is subscribed to your blog. Would love some feedback.
By the way, we also open sourced an npm module to handle inbound emails and post them to a webhook of your choice https://github.com/Flolagale/mailin
Does anyone know which library this uses to convert mails to HTML?
I'm wondering because I need something for a devops project that can show spam inline in a webpage. Obviously this is dangerous because it could spread malware so what could mailp.in be using to avoid spreading malware like this?
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 73.9 ms ] threadI'm not sure what to use this for though. Who would look at the website when it just contains what was in the mail a minute ago anyway?
1. Ad hoc image album. Put a bunch of images as attachments in an email and send to p@mailp.in to create a simple page.
2. Forward company receipts to p@mailp.in and create a page, and share the link in coworkers ... (this sounds weird ... but it works well for us ...)
3. Forward marketing spams to create page, and publicly share such pages to denounce those spammers :)
4. Forward paper acceptance latters or other letters to create pages, and share them to show off -- vanity!
5. Ad hoc blogging ... Don't want to have an account, don't want people to follow me. But occasionally, we still want to say something and share to Friends that we really trust.
6. Create a playlist of youtube videos. Put a bunch of youtube links and send to p@mailp.in. A page with embedded videos will be created. We don't have youtube accounts ... sorry ... but still want to share a bunch of videos with friends ...
7. Tweet more than 140 characters. Create a page with short url, and tweet!
There would be more use cases. The point is, we want something dead simple. No registration, no app (well, email client is still needed ...), and private.
A low value comment + product mentions = spammy smell.
This has no relation whatsoever with the OP's product. It is saying, "Hey great stuff! Check out my unrelated product in the link, maybe we can collaborate."
I doesn't smell spam; it is spam.
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- Where's your privacy policy detailed? With the nature of the service (gathering email addresses etc) you could head-off lots of questions with that.
- A default serif font drags anything down. For me personally I'd prefer another font.
- You sensibly replace emails, but other links like 'unsubscribe' remain intact, which could be problematic (don't worry, you'll still get your costco emails although it can sometimes lead to real emails/names).
- I guess grouping and parsing is the next step, i.e. process them and provide features around them a la tripit. Is that the direction you might take it?
"Where's your privacy policy detailed? With the nature of the service (gathering email addresses etc) you could head-off lots of questions with that."
We haven't worked out a formal privacy policy ... but of course, user privacy is our top priority! We won't use user emails for anything else. In fact, from the post page, you can't find your email address.
"A default serif font drags anything down. For me personally I'd prefer another font."
We are still improving on the UI ... We would appreciate if you tell us your preferred font :)
"You sensibly replace emails, but other links like 'unsubscribe' remain intact, which could be problematic (don't worry, you'll still get your costco emails although it can sometimes lead to real emails/names)"
We also take care of unsubscribe part if the unsubscribe url contains your email address.
"I guess grouping and parsing is the next step, i.e. process them and provide features around them a la tripit. Is that the direction you might take it?"
Definitely there are many possibilities to explore from what we have right now. We'd like to hear users comments / critiques / suggestions first.
For next steps and parsing, it really depends on if you want to store a user graph your end, i.e. do you want to also initiate the 'share' and know who is looking at the link? If you do then the features go in one direction (collaboration, conversations, actionable stuff) but if you don't want that then it's sort of a different animal (formatting, i.e. galleries, content suggestions and the like).
For a font, Helvetica Neue or anything in that family is all the rage ;)
And one of the best is that you can keep your data with emails an decentralised it.
Very nice works, the idea is pleasant i'am thinking on a private open source network. Would you mind if i use your idea ?
A maling list where you can publish things more easily ....
Did you read this ? http://mobisocial.stanford.edu/papers/mrprivacy.pdf
(Checks picture...)
Picture contains:
"This picture shows how we created this page:"
Picture of picture contains...
...there it breaks. But you were on to something recursive for a while.
Your positionning is certainly superior though, because 'mail2web' is simpler and more fun than 'yet another blogging platform that uses email'...
I never got around to turning attachments on because I was afraid of the hosting costs; how do you plan on dealing with those?
"I never got around to turning attachments on because I was afraid of the hosting costs; how do you plan on dealing with those?"
As long as users don't delete their posts, we keep them (including attachments) there. If we are running out of storage space, we can add more machines :)
And mailp.in solves that issue perfectly. If someone sends you an email that is chock full of content that should be shared, just mailpin it.
One question: how long are the URL and the content preserved?
"One question: how long are the URL and the content preserved?"
You decide. If you don't delete it yourself, it'll be there forever. And it's private. You decide who to share with. You decide whether to keep it or not.
We will commit to improving mailpin, making it a robust and useful service.
But definitely we have alerts and closely monitor to prevent something bad happens.
Abusers will abuse, and it seems that you are only going to consider restrictions and security overall after it happens.
Set some alerts so you at least get a warning before the server goes down.
If you simply create a post page and keep it to yourself or share in a closed social network (e.g., IM, facebook private group ...) that cannot be indexed by google, then you are good.
That said, you decide to what degree you want to share your page.
You may want to send a follow up email with a quick link for the user to add a noindex meta tag to the page, or even password protect it.
We just did a release to address this problem. Now, <meta name="robots" content="noindex"> is added for each single page.
Should be "Your email client...."?
The same reason they show advertisements. By installing these plugins they get a share of affiliate income or other louchy schemes.
I'm wondering because I need something for a devops project that can show spam inline in a webpage. Obviously this is dangerous because it could spread malware so what could mailp.in be using to avoid spreading malware like this?