No, it's awful. But it's the only client side scripting language out there, and Web guys love to pretend they're just as skilled as systems guys. They take concepts that systems programmers discovered 30 years ago, put a fancy name on it and do it worse.
Funny, but that's exactly what people were saying about Java programmers in the 90's. Now, the Java ecosystem is full of useful libraries and well optimized systems. It's become the default language for implementing big business systems. I wonder if Javascript won't simply follow the same course?
EDIT: I seem to have struck a nerve. Please read this at face value and not as some kind of snark. What I say is factually true. There are plenty of horrible things written in Java, but eventually, that becomes true of any language, and there are tons of great things written in it. It's no accident that HFT is written in Java nowadays. Also no accident that Clojure and Scala are written on top of it.
Show HN: cool project that I built (0 comments, 0 points)
Show HN: cool project that I built with Go and Node.js (23442 comments, 63563234 points)
(Not that I'm bitter about lack of exposure due to not being a clickbaiter or anything... And no, it's not that people looked at the link and just didn't think it was interesting -- according to web server logs, I didn't get a single click at all :P )
Only if we pretend that the HN and 4chan audiences are disjoint. I'm afraid whats happening here is more inbreeding than many are comfortable to admit.
Brutal. Hilarious. Some good points. Some dumb ones (they don't seem to understand how important failure is and why it's good to share your failures). Their mockery is actually quite diverse.
===SV Celebrity Worship===
"Why Elon Musk is the most perfect human being alive today"
===Political===
"A Heart Divided: How a gay JavaScript programmer feels about Brendan Eich"
"Please don't mention Condoleezza Rice. Our autism is above politics."
"10 ways we unknowingly oppress female programmers and enforce patriarchy"
===Juvenile Cliq===
"Reasons why this <obscure new non-stable language that can't even compile™ yet> will replace C as a system language and why you SHOULD use it if you don't want to be left in the dust."
"Why we switched to [obscure framework] and you should too."
===HN flaws===
"<userX>, you seem to be hellbanned for no reason."
===Feel Good Superior Heroism===
"Check out this TED talk about teaching node.js to kids in Africa."
===Love of Javascript===
"Have you heard about our Lord and Saviour JavaScript?"
"How to touch yourself at night without JavaScript knowing it."
"Breaking news! POP3 and IMAP written in Javascript!"
"How I ported the control software of a nuclear reactor to reactive Javascript"
"Linux kernel ported to JavaScript running in the browser. See how we did it."
"How I made a filesystem in javascript."
"How I got my girlfriend pregnant using JavaScript."
"How to avoid getting HIV using JavaScript."
"The Linux kernel doesn't have enough javascript."
"I recommended my boss to rewrite the local powergrid infrastructure to javascript and how I lost my job."
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[ 2.7 ms ] story [ 152 ms ] threadEdit: you jokers need to learn your internet history. http://bash.org/?23396
Although, tbh, catching the right trend floats alot of startups is why that kind of content matters...
I mean that is really how GitHub 'won' the whole git hosting thing, wasn't it?
Things I have learned from coding for a month
Ten ways to become a better programmer (by the guy who's been coding for a month)
OK, seriously, it should be /g/ instead of 4chan.
(no, Descartes did not say this)
> How I got my girlfriend pregnant using JavaScript.
> How we became ramen profitable by pivoting our cat consulting business to dogs.
> Mildly interesting topic (wikipedia.org)
No, it's awful. But it's the only client side scripting language out there, and Web guys love to pretend they're just as skilled as systems guys. They take concepts that systems programmers discovered 30 years ago, put a fancy name on it and do it worse.
Funny, but that's exactly what people were saying about Java programmers in the 90's. Now, the Java ecosystem is full of useful libraries and well optimized systems. It's become the default language for implementing big business systems. I wonder if Javascript won't simply follow the same course?
EDIT: I seem to have struck a nerve. Please read this at face value and not as some kind of snark. What I say is factually true. There are plenty of horrible things written in Java, but eventually, that becomes true of any language, and there are tons of great things written in it. It's no accident that HFT is written in Java nowadays. Also no accident that Clojure and Scala are written on top of it.
Actually interesting topic (3 comments, 4 points)
Hilarious..
Show HN: cool project that I built with Go and Node.js (23442 comments, 63563234 points)
(Not that I'm bitter about lack of exposure due to not being a clickbaiter or anything... And no, it's not that people looked at the link and just didn't think it was interesting -- according to web server logs, I didn't get a single click at all :P )
DOS still used by George RR Martin
George RR Martin talks about authoring in DOS
DOS to be killed off in the next episode of Game of Thrones
Im highly moderated to the point of killing users voices.
Politically selfish when it comes to talking about YCombinator. (Politics is alright, as long as YCombinator is doing it)
:O
===SV Celebrity Worship===
"Why Elon Musk is the most perfect human being alive today"
===Political===
"A Heart Divided: How a gay JavaScript programmer feels about Brendan Eich"
"Please don't mention Condoleezza Rice. Our autism is above politics."
"10 ways we unknowingly oppress female programmers and enforce patriarchy"
===Juvenile Cliq===
"Reasons why this <obscure new non-stable language that can't even compile™ yet> will replace C as a system language and why you SHOULD use it if you don't want to be left in the dust."
"Why we switched to [obscure framework] and you should too."
===HN flaws===
"<userX>, you seem to be hellbanned for no reason."
===Feel Good Superior Heroism===
"Check out this TED talk about teaching node.js to kids in Africa."
===Love of Javascript===
"Have you heard about our Lord and Saviour JavaScript?"
"How to touch yourself at night without JavaScript knowing it."
"Breaking news! POP3 and IMAP written in Javascript!"
"How I ported the control software of a nuclear reactor to reactive Javascript"
"Linux kernel ported to JavaScript running in the browser. See how we did it."
"How I made a filesystem in javascript."
"How I got my girlfriend pregnant using JavaScript."
"How to avoid getting HIV using JavaScript."
"The Linux kernel doesn't have enough javascript."
"I recommended my boss to rewrite the local powergrid infrastructure to javascript and how I lost my job."
What 4chan thinks of what HN thinks of what 4chan thinks of HN: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/41920845#p41922057 (thread currently in progress)