Yes, it did when I read the posting, but is that live audio commentary transcribed or live text commentary?
I think realtime-transcribed live audio commentary would be more timely and lively :) though also harder to do I guess. In either case it's a great service.
Edit: it apparently IS computer-generated live audio! Amazing :)
There are some syncing services between radio and streaming - for example here in Uruguay we like the local radio commentary, and so do the Brazilians and Argentineans, we might watch a match on tv with the sound turned off and radio turned on.
Probably too late now that the conversation has moved on, but if you happen to see this could you point me to one of these syncing services? A very quick google search didn't turn up anything. Thanks.
Not all tv programmes are captioned. Sometimes pushing the CC button won't work :-)
Then something like this becomes incredibly useful.
EDIT: Also, (and I'm not sure if tveeder supports this) but making this a web service means that even hearing people can search for the resulting transcripts as easily as any other text.
I wish I could upvote this a hundred times. This is exactly the kind of thing I like to see more of. Is this your project, sunpazed? Nicely done!
EDIT: Wait, what? Did that guy really say:
"Yes. It's edgy stuff, this. It will ruffle a few ferts. Will say something some people won't like. Hopefully they won't be watching the show. It wasn't very difficult to give Tony Abbott a dick and balls. He was holding this at the time."
I spotted some other weird bits, (I have nothing to compare it to) Is this is computer-based voice recognition? I have to admit it's a lot better than Youtube's terrible excuse for captioning - most of what I see on this page looks pretty coherent and on topic.
Yes, it is. Myself, and a small group of enthusiasts developed the service.
We launched in 2011, with the idea that the hearing impaired could use the service to access a great source of realtime information - television.
The hearing impaired could now objectively access and review online the quality of captions delivered by broadcasters.
Since then, it has grown into a useful resource for everyone.
One of the biggest benefits, we believe, is that our service raises the awareness of captioning to others who haven’t traditionally relied on it.
For those technically minded, it's a client-server model built with custom client hardware. Currently, we're only streaming Australian channels, however, there's scope to plug in any terrestrial broadcast, and feed it into TVeeder.
I second, great project. Is it just failing under load ATM (cause of MEX v. CMR)? It may not work from this network (worked earlier from another) which uses a transparent proxy. websockets tends to fall over with most proxies. I see you use ws:// maybe wss:// would get through more often but maybe that is too much. Again thanks, this is great what you all created.
It worked from Safari but not FF on the proxies network. During the BELvALG game there are lots of trouble again, seems to only get a small portion of the captions and then stops updating. Here is the last of what I was able to get:
{
"id": 4399254,
"channel": 785,
"text": "But at BOQ you can talk to one person",
"date": 1403023783.284,
"cid": 7
}
Do you have a way for people around the world to provide additional content? For example if I have a tuner card, and want to run some service to extract screenshots and CC text to send to you via some sort of API
Yes. However, it does require custom hardware. We've prototyped a small hardware platform to allow others to contribute to the live feed. However, this remains at prototype stage - we've been running self funded since inception.
Very well done. I experimented once with Sports broadcast captioning (not real-time though; using YouTube videos) by using Amazon Mechanical Turk for crowdsourced closed-captioning.
Isn't being deaf and watching soccer more like being there in person? Whenever I go see live matches there is no announcer. The ref has no mic and makes no hand gestures and there are no jumbo-tron close ups on anything important. Very difficult but apparently genuine. Part of the barrier to entry for football fans I suppose.
Is it only done the instant they make the call or is it repeated after the fat like in american football/hockey? I'll have to take your word for it because from where I've sat I could see nothing :)
Arm in one direction or the other indicates throw in direction (if it was a close call -- often there isn't any chance for dispute and the team knows what's what and throws it in within a second or two if there is a hurry).
There is a "play on" type arm wave (usually accompanied by a verbal "play on" or something) to indicate "yes I saw him fall, no I don't think it's a foul, keep playing".
The line referees have flags and have similar signals. The only real difference is for a foul they hold the flag straight up and wave it a little. For offside they hold it straight up and stand still to mark where the offside occurred. The line referee should always be located at the exact line that marks offside. Of course pro players are faster than referees, but to get past level 7 refereeing (starts at level 9, kids games, level 7 is probably high school games, state level, etc) you must pass fitness exams as well as paper exams. Level 2 is FIFA assistant referee, so they must all be in quite good shape.
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- What are you doing?
- Just here, reading TV
Are these captions taken from a live text commentary (like BBC's service), or from a radio commentary?
I think the second would be more useful, since they tend to mention players and plays more often.
A nice case of tech helping people with disabilities, great job and good luck !
I think realtime-transcribed live audio commentary would be more timely and lively :) though also harder to do I guess. In either case it's a great service.
Edit: it apparently IS computer-generated live audio! Amazing :)
There are some syncing services between radio and streaming - for example here in Uruguay we like the local radio commentary, and so do the Brazilians and Argentineans, we might watch a match on tv with the sound turned off and radio turned on.
For the world cup specifically the espn announcers perform so terribly we likely won't even do that and have music playing instead.
It was one of my best experiences in soccer ever, beat only by when I started using my radio to listen to a group of comedians commentary.
Then something like this becomes incredibly useful.
EDIT: Also, (and I'm not sure if tveeder supports this) but making this a web service means that even hearing people can search for the resulting transcripts as easily as any other text.
EDIT: Wait, what? Did that guy really say:
"Yes. It's edgy stuff, this. It will ruffle a few ferts. Will say something some people won't like. Hopefully they won't be watching the show. It wasn't very difficult to give Tony Abbott a dick and balls. He was holding this at the time."
I spotted some other weird bits, (I have nothing to compare it to) Is this is computer-based voice recognition? I have to admit it's a lot better than Youtube's terrible excuse for captioning - most of what I see on this page looks pretty coherent and on topic.
We launched in 2011, with the idea that the hearing impaired could use the service to access a great source of realtime information - television.
The hearing impaired could now objectively access and review online the quality of captions delivered by broadcasters.
Since then, it has grown into a useful resource for everyone.
One of the biggest benefits, we believe, is that our service raises the awareness of captioning to others who haven’t traditionally relied on it.
For those technically minded, it's a client-server model built with custom client hardware. Currently, we're only streaming Australian channels, however, there's scope to plug in any terrestrial broadcast, and feed it into TVeeder.
There's a REST API too.
I wish you best of luck and congratulations.
An example is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCgc1jAXGSk
Tangentially, most soccer commentary (esp. in the US) is so horrible it's not a big loss not being able to hear. Just watch the game ;-)
While, from the stands, they may be difficult to see, soccer referees definitely make standardized hand signals.
Arm straight up: offside
Arm towards goal line: goal kick
Arm towards corner: corner kick
Arm in one direction or the other indicates throw in direction (if it was a close call -- often there isn't any chance for dispute and the team knows what's what and throws it in within a second or two if there is a hurry).
There is a "play on" type arm wave (usually accompanied by a verbal "play on" or something) to indicate "yes I saw him fall, no I don't think it's a foul, keep playing".
The line referees have flags and have similar signals. The only real difference is for a foul they hold the flag straight up and wave it a little. For offside they hold it straight up and stand still to mark where the offside occurred. The line referee should always be located at the exact line that marks offside. Of course pro players are faster than referees, but to get past level 7 refereeing (starts at level 9, kids games, level 7 is probably high school games, state level, etc) you must pass fitness exams as well as paper exams. Level 2 is FIFA assistant referee, so they must all be in quite good shape.