"intensively discussed" would for the most part indicate that the item is of some interest or importance to the people discussing.
I think it would only indicate hype if it were also true that most of the discussion was disingenuous in some way. The distinction underlying this thought is that discussion is not (usually) promotion or deliberate publicizing of the thing discussed. Usually, it's just plain, honest discussion.
Hype has almost universally negative connotations to me. Based on the name, I expected your extension would hide "hyped" stories (where hype is perhaps defined by a high comment-to-upvote ratio for a story), since hype is usually bad. You may wish to consider a new name.
Not really "sorted by sum of comments and votes" nor really "age is ignored". The former only affects horizontal offset of the start of a title, and the latter is preserved, so that the order (and fluctuation) of the titles is as usual too.
Interesting. I like the idea, but I'm not fond of the chaotic layout. I'd prefer that the hype dimension be color or text size rather than x-dimension of text location.
Also the word hyped has a negative connotation in my mind, in particular that of exaggeration and b.s. As you mention perhaps this meaning is optional but for me the connection is strong.
I'd prefer another word. I thought the word hyper, for example hyperHN, might be better but anyway something else.
Do chrome extensions allow you to enter javascript functions that get executed via settings? I could see something like a 'custom hype formatter' callback option that passes a dom reference to the news item along with its hype ranking being pretty neat.
Yes, the result is a bit unexpected but it works much better than other "more traditional" approaches. I mean, it's really "at a glance" that I can find the strongest news.
As for the "Hyped News" name, I don't think negative is inappropriate, take "Git" for example. Instead, amount of points and comments can be at the same time an indicator of importance (mostly points) and controversy (mostly comments). In either case, the leftmost news end up being those which people are more excited about.
I'm still not convinced there isn't a generational difference. I work part time with students and have heard "hype" as a positive adjective ie, "This thing is so hype". I also think the negative connotation people are mentioning comes from the term "over-hyped" which is closer to your second definition.
Names are important. If everyone's talking about the name, it's probably a bad one. Choosing a good name requires an understanding of the context of your product/service and your audience (i.e. don't name a developer-centric product "bro" in 2014, unless you're looking for some drama). I honestly thought this was a tool that highlighted overhyped substance-less links.
Obviously, for a non-commercial browser extension, it's not a big deal. But in any case I wouldn't blame the people for reacting to the name, I would blame the creator for choosing a bad one.
It would seem so. I posted a link a few weeks back (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7983060) that was on the front page for a bit but was booted off when the conversation spiraled a bit out of control.
Almost all my stories are on the very right side, with one or two on the very left, and not much in the middle. You should either use percentile score to determine the location (so the median scoring story is right in the center) or apply some sort of transformation to the score (log is probably reasonable, I'm guessing scores tend to be approximately log-normally distributed).
I didn't look into an even distribution. I only allotted the golden ratio part of the content width to the maximum sum of points and comments on a given page.
Actually, the reason I wrote the extension was exactly to avoid scanning down the list with my own eyes. This extension does it for me, so that, if I don't have much time, I can just read the few leftmost news.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 65.8 ms ] threadIn this case, "hyped news" could be: News intensively promoted (many points) or discussed (many comments).
The nuance about exaggeration is optional.
I think it would only indicate hype if it were also true that most of the discussion was disingenuous in some way. The distinction underlying this thought is that discussion is not (usually) promotion or deliberate publicizing of the thing discussed. Usually, it's just plain, honest discussion.
Also the word hyped has a negative connotation in my mind, in particular that of exaggeration and b.s. As you mention perhaps this meaning is optional but for me the connection is strong.
I'd prefer another word. I thought the word hyper, for example hyperHN, might be better but anyway something else.
Maybe I misunderstand you but isn't that what an extension does?
As for the "Hyped News" name, I don't think negative is inappropriate, take "Git" for example. Instead, amount of points and comments can be at the same time an indicator of importance (mostly points) and controversy (mostly comments). In either case, the leftmost news end up being those which people are more excited about.
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EDIT: For reference https://twitter.com/search?q=hyped the self-referenced use of "hyped" to mean excited about something is pretty popular
Looks like that one can apply to both someone's emotional state in general and the thing they are hyped about without the negative connotation.
[1] http://bropages.org/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121268
Obviously, for a non-commercial browser extension, it's not a big deal. But in any case I wouldn't blame the people for reacting to the name, I would blame the creator for choosing a bad one.
Perhaps color might be a good alternative as an indicator? Make the text fade away a bit if it is less relevant..etc...
Thanks for the kind words, anyway.