Did something stupid and am scared
I've been trying freelancing and building my own software for the past year and it hasn't gone well. I've hardly earned any money and am going through cash and credit cards quickly.
So here's what I did that was stupid. I received a credit card application in the mail today and decided it couldn't hurt to put last years income in for my total income, even though this year I will be making half of it, mostly my wife's meager income. I put the LLC I freelance under as my employer. It didn't ask if I was self-employe or not. I submitted the application online and now I'm panicking and having second thoughts. I am terrified that I just committed fraud. I called to cancel and the application department was closed. Now I can't sleep and don't know what to do.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 30.2 ms ] threadMore importantly though, get some stable income coming in, at least for a couple to a few months. It will give you some clarity to not have to think about things like this for a while. I certainly know how you feel. I imagine most freelancers/building a product on the side know how you feel.
Applications for things with false information are only a legal matter when it's government-related or you're using it.
You haven't done either.
This won't be true anymore if you actually receive the card and use it.
But don't be scared; just cancel the application tomorrow morning.
The much larger stupid thing you're doing is racking up a lot of credit card debt. This will not be nearly as simple a problem to solve. You need to stop doing that now. I don't know much about your situation, but is there any chance you could get a day job to support you while you build your freelancing business?
If you're worried, just cancel it when you receive it.
You can worry about improving the business, because a successfully executed freelancing business should more than pay the bills. We're in the best market since forever. But worry about that tomorrow.
What you should really be terrified of is "going through cash and credit cards quickly". If you're financing your living expenses by borrowing against your credit cards (at a very hefty interest rate), you'll go bankrupt soon. If you can't make ends meet by freelancing, try looking for a full-time job. If you have the skills to build your own software you can probably get a job with a decent salary. You can continue working on your own projects in your spare time. Do you really want to risk you and your wife ending up broke and homeless?
In this case, I would do nothing and just see if they issue the card or not.
It's not like they have any means of knowing your income other than your reporting it... so they can't check it.
If would only seem to be fraud if you're doing this deliberately to mislead them and have no intention of repaying the loan.
Your story is the equivalent of wondering if you'll be prosecuted for grand theft for taking 2 samples at the grocery store instead of 1.
Seriously; do you know how many people lie or exaggerate on financial documents when they're trying to get money?
Assuming that you have in fact committed fraud, a fact which requires legal adjudication:
What have you defrauded the credit card company of ?
Currently, at worst, a small piece of plastic of slight value, and again assuming that there is a legal finding of fraud.
[ Per my 1040's since 1995, I am a philosopher ]
Your concerns seem more along the lines of having done something that the sort of person you strive to be would not do. That's not a legal issue, it's an ethical/moral dilemma.
Business is inherently amoral [ by which I do not mean immoral ]. Actions are either legal or illegal. The general assumption is that anything not explicitly prohibited is permitted. Money changes many things, including people's judgements: its fungiblity lets it serve as a proxy for the basic necessities of an individual's survival.
Credit card companies have very sophisticated means of assessing risk. These go well beyond self reported income, e.g. patterns of payment/non-payment are probably reliable actuarily.
In the end, the big issue ethically/morally is not if what you did was ok with the credit card company. The big issue is if what you did is ok with you.
Ethics/morals are about not doing what is legally permitted.