Yeah! I see No Reason At All that a teenage girl might feel uncomfortable going to a coding camp where she'd likely be outnumbered 10:1 by teenage boys!
I absolutely agree: women should be allowed to form their own spaces to learn programming if they'd like, especially if it makes them more comfortable, and it means they won't have to put up with harassment from assholes!
Oh noes! People who are different than me! How will I ever learn around them!? Funny how feminist concerns are essentially the same as the segregationists of 50 years ago.
lmao are you unironically comparing the experiences of a minority group that routinely gets shit on in tyool 2014 to the experiences of... historical oppressors?
That's a bad post, and you should feel bad.
VVV man youre just going all in on this "being a really horrible person" thing huh
VVVV c'mon step up your posting game, it's either ^^^ or /\/\/\, i prefer the former but i won't argue with the latter
Sorry, I forgot to check my privilege and self flagellate to atone for the sins of my ancestors. You're right! Separate but equal is the way ahead!
Maybe we can call in the national guard to escort these fragile and defenseless women through the streets on their way to code school too? We must not have men under the influence of toxic masculinity saying "hello" or "good morning" - they might shatter the women!
VVV - Gee you're going all in on this White Male Guilt thing aren't you? How many fair maidens have you rescued today?
VVVV - I thought it was an acronym for Very Vaginal Verbiage.
My 9 year-old girl has really enjoyed YouthDigital.com's courses so far. They're expensive, but extremely kid-friendly and practical (the Minecraft Mod Design 1* course is especially fun).
I also recommend creating a nickname on Freenode (IRC) and an account on Github. Both are fairly non-biased, genderless ways of meeting people interested in technology and being around others learning to code.
This is what I would suggest to anyone interested in learning that doesn't have some social event nearby that they can go to. It's what people did 10+ years ago when they were interested but isolated and presumably still works.
I think the list should include women's colleges. Many of them have great CS programs, and by definition avoid the problem of being the only woman in a class full of guys.
It is a detail but the word "Amazing" was not in the original title and I think it should not be here too. It just looks like linkbait and will annoy most people.
You're right. And the arbitrary number 13 should have been edited out, as well, per the HN guidelines:
If the original title begins with a number or number + gratuitous adjective, we'd appreciate it if you'd crop it. E.g. translate "10 Ways To Do X" to "How To Do X," and "14 Amazing Ys" to "Ys." Exception: when the number is meaningful, e.g. "The 5 Platonic Solids."
The submitted title ("13 Amazing Places Where Women and Girls Can Learn to Code") kept the number and added a gratuitous adjective, which is a little like missing a "Wrong Way" sign while driving down a one-way street.
All: Drive-by one-liners and shrill sarcasm are not helpful. Those of you posting these are ruining this thread and, by extension, this site. You're not contributing, you're venting. That is not what Hacker News is for, so please stop.
If you can't comment in the spirit of what PG wrote here:
A comment should be written in the spirit of colleagues cooperating
in good faith to figure out the truth about something, not
politicians trying to ridicule and misrepresent the other side. [1]
... then kindly don't post anything until you can. This holds regardless of the position you're trying to bolster—which you're not bolstering at all, but detracting from.
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That's a bad post, and you should feel bad.
VVV man youre just going all in on this "being a really horrible person" thing huh
VVVV c'mon step up your posting game, it's either ^^^ or /\/\/\, i prefer the former but i won't argue with the latter
Sorry, I forgot to check my privilege and self flagellate to atone for the sins of my ancestors. You're right! Separate but equal is the way ahead!
Maybe we can call in the national guard to escort these fragile and defenseless women through the streets on their way to code school too? We must not have men under the influence of toxic masculinity saying "hello" or "good morning" - they might shatter the women!
VVV - Gee you're going all in on this White Male Guilt thing aren't you? How many fair maidens have you rescued today?
VVVV - I thought it was an acronym for Very Vaginal Verbiage.
No personal attacks on Hacker News, please, even when a post is bad.
*http://www.youthdigital.com/mod-design-1.html
Projects like those linked above help break that circle.
This is what I would suggest to anyone interested in learning that doesn't have some social event nearby that they can go to. It's what people did 10+ years ago when they were interested but isolated and presumably still works.
I'm sure the funders are also dumping money into "13 Amazing Places Where Men and Boys can learn to be Nurses / Teachers / Homemakers"
http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/07/in_south_carolina_an_...
Encouraging men into nursing:
http://aamn.org/choosenursing.shtml
That was 10 seconds of googling.
Any chance you can google up the disparity in funding between the "women in tech" vs. the "men in x" campaigns for me too?
http://cs.smith.edu
http://www.wellesley.edu/cs
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/computerscience
http://cs.brynmawr.edu/content/
If the original title begins with a number or number + gratuitous adjective, we'd appreciate it if you'd crop it. E.g. translate "10 Ways To Do X" to "How To Do X," and "14 Amazing Ys" to "Ys." Exception: when the number is meaningful, e.g. "The 5 Platonic Solids."
The submitted title ("13 Amazing Places Where Women and Girls Can Learn to Code") kept the number and added a gratuitous adjective, which is a little like missing a "Wrong Way" sign while driving down a one-way street.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
If you can't comment in the spirit of what PG wrote here:
A comment should be written in the spirit of colleagues cooperating in good faith to figure out the truth about something, not politicians trying to ridicule and misrepresent the other side. [1]
... then kindly don't post anything until you can. This holds regardless of the position you're trying to bolster—which you're not bolstering at all, but detracting from.
1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7445761