>How do they differentiate themselves from other providers? Feels like the ordinary "it will sell because it says Swiss all over the place".
Good luck with that. ☺️ Swiss privacy laws aren't any better than, lets say, Germany's, but you pay a lot more for less (hardware, bandwith) due to limited competition.
I must agree that the Swiss privacy law (DPA - Data Protection Act) is similar in the requirements it commands to data owners. The significant difference is that it not only applies to individuals like in Germany or EU but to Corporations too.
If they are using OpenStack, I would highly encourage them to not screw with the basic Glance setup. I've used ~10 public cloud providers who run OpenStack now, and most of them screw Glance up in one way or another, rendering the rest of the offering fairly worthless because of the inability to use custom images.
Not allowing custom images, not allowing certain formats, not allowing the use of a URL (which Glance then d/l and manages), not allowing uploading and simply not configuring the endpoints to be advertised AT ALL.
I guess this is a good time to ask, then: can anyone recommend a good VPS provider with servers in Switzerland? (as in: not in beta, but available today)
No mention as to whether Bitcoin (or Paysafecard) will be accepted, there is no point talking about PRIVACY when only payment methods such as paypal or credit cards are used which do not offer Privacy
If you're looking for a provider already out of beta, I'd encourage you to check-out https://exoscale.ch (disclaimer: I'm the CTO there).
We have object-storage, a heroku compatible PaaS and our cloudstack based IaaS.
We also contribute a ton of dOSS things whether in existing projects (riemann, collectd, graphite) or home grown projects such as http://pithos.io
If you're keen to try out, you can register with the WELOVEHN coupon which will get you started with a few more credits than the usual CHF20, we also do special prices for startups, available here: https://www.exoscale.ch/pricing-target/
On https://portal.exoscale.ch/register just hit "I have a coupon code".
Otherwise, the default credit when you don't have coupon is indeed CHF 5 which gives you a couple of days to try out.
The right thing to do in this situation is refrain from commenting in the thread at all.
Whoever "cloudscale" is, I'm sure it's a big deal to get on the front page of HN and having a competitor sneak in their promo codes in the comment thread to snipe potential customers probably puts a damper on things.
Whatever the ethics of it, actually I am currently looking for a Swiss based hosting provider that looks a lot like cloudscale/exoscale. However Cloudscale is just "coming soon" and Exoscale isn't, so knowing about it was rather useful. Actually I had no idea that you could get advanced app hosting platforms like this that were regional. I thought Heroku was it.
Exoscale would get more money from me if they had hosted postgres as well as mysql though.
Does being "Swiss" mean much in international terms, for something like this? That is, if I, as an American citizen, have a server with these guys, and the USG comes knocking wanting to image my instance, are they going to offer any more resistance than a US (or German, or South African, or Mexican, etc.) provider?
Would it be ok to run a tor exit relay on something like this? I recently decided to contribute to the project, but have been realizing that finding an Exit-node friendly host is basically impossible.
i imagine hosting a datacenter in switzerland has got to expensive like everything else in that country，and typically renewable energy technology is just as expensive
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 79.9 ms ] threadGood luck with that. ☺️ Swiss privacy laws aren't any better than, lets say, Germany's, but you pay a lot more for less (hardware, bandwith) due to limited competition.
Does anyone know in who's data center they are?
https://www.exoscale.ch/infrastructure/security/#data-protec...
We have object-storage, a heroku compatible PaaS and our cloudstack based IaaS. We also contribute a ton of dOSS things whether in existing projects (riemann, collectd, graphite) or home grown projects such as http://pithos.io
If you're keen to try out, you can register with the WELOVEHN coupon which will get you started with a few more credits than the usual CHF20, we also do special prices for startups, available here: https://www.exoscale.ch/pricing-target/
Are you based on Cloud Foundry?
Looks good, but I don't see an entry for the coupon and the "usual" credit appears to be CHF 5?!?
Whoever "cloudscale" is, I'm sure it's a big deal to get on the front page of HN and having a competitor sneak in their promo codes in the comment thread to snipe potential customers probably puts a damper on things.
Classy.
Exoscale would get more money from me if they had hosted postgres as well as mysql though.
Would love to run one here if it's allowed!