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MichaelCrawford
WTF?

So a port gets opened to serve content that the user doesn't want nor need?

What if the box is not a server? What if it's a mission-critical server for something other than http?

Why do we have systemd? So many hate it so very much, who is backing it and why?

otterley
> So a port gets opened to serve content that the user doesn't want nor need?

Not by default.

> What if the box is not a server? What if it's a mission-critical server for something other than http?

If you read the thread, you'll see why it's there and what service needs to be running for it to be active.

> Why do we have systemd? So many hate it so very much, who is backing it and why?

Red Hat is backing it, and I'm happy they are doing so. There are plenty of good reasons, starting with http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html

johnny22
I'd love to get actual stats of "so many". It's probably less than %1 of all the GNU/Linux userbase. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.
RexRollman
Building an embedded HTTP engine into an Init system?? Fuck that. Someone needs to reign these people in.
johnny22
it's a service that isn't enabled by default, nor is it often even installed by default. I've found it useful though to use the gateway service to create a nice interface to browse the journal on local web app.
marssaxman
What the hell is going on with systemd and how can this possibly be a good idea?
digi_owl
Apparently it is there to give the admin/user a quick way to grab the initial log singing key...
djupblue
A daemon that isn't part of systemd init or even started by default does yes.
headhuntermdk
This was from 2012
NeutronBoy
And apparently still nobody has read the mailing list to see what it's for...