Ask HN: Guide to becoming a dad?
In a delightful father's day surprise, my wife and I found out this afternoon that she's pregnant. We'd planned on this, though maybe not for another few months. After the initial excitement/crying/what have you, I realized that this is a subject that I know woefully little about.
Since I can't tell anyone I know just yet, I'll ask anonymously: how do we do this? I'm asking mostly for books and articles to read, but advice is helpful, too. Did any of you read a helpful book that approached prenatal nutrition (I cook for us), preparation, early child rearing, etc. from a scientific or "hacker" perspective? It seems like a lot of what I'm finding on Amazon are based on fads or shaky-at-best assertions. Recommendations for a dad-to-be are very much appreciated.
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[ 0.61 ms ] story [ 210 ms ] thread17 years ago my (ex) wife and I bought a small handful of books. Despite my enthusiasm for the books, I don't think I read any of them past the preface, especially after our son was born; buy what appeals to you, and don't overthink things.
Our son graduates high school in another year. He's a viable human being, he likes people, people like him, we love each other. I have no idea how that happened.
No one knows how to raise a child, but we mostly seem to do OK.
Do what your wife's doctor says for health and nutrition. Do what your eventual pediatrician says for health and nutrition. Buy black and red mobiles.
Hold your child a lot. Play with your child a lot. Talk to your child. Read to him. Sing to him. Give him toys and books. Show him everything, but not all at once. Tell your child "I love you" for the rest of your life, and show him.
Enjoy the ride.
// Son of a 1.5 year old kid who has just learnt to speak "Lizard"
(Are lizards lizards, or is everything lizard? :)
When my son uses my mobile phone (which he knows how to turn on, off, unlock) - I generally turn brightness very low. This is in stark contrast to red/white :-)
http://www.houzz.com/photos/1211969/Blue-and-Grey-Whales-Bab...
so your 1.5 year old is already swiping ? maybe hold off on getting him an oculus rift, okay ? :)
The one thing I wish someone had told me was how much they are learning even when they aren't talking or really even moving. Take advantage of that by talking and reading to them a lot, I am a firm believer that kids can ingest way more information than you can deliver. Very little chance of talking to much or reading to much to them.
All said though it has been the most challenging and rewarding thing I've ever done. I would wish for you a great experience as well.
One thing: I don't know how much you tend to bring your work home with you, but that has to stop between the time you get home, and the time your child goes to bed. This was a tough one for me, since children aren't nearly as intellectually stimulating as programming or reading - that said, I'm a much happier person for it. I still read and program in my spare time, but only once the little one is asleep.
Also I found any books recommended to me to be absolutely worthless. Not saying there are no good parenting books, just that I haven't read any.
Finally, congratulations! The fact that you're already concerned with doing a good job tells me you'll probably be a great dad. Like I said, just do what feels right :)
You do not need to be a "perfect" parent, just good enough. Remember to nurture also your relationship with your partner and reserve some time for yourself. When you and partner feel good about your life and are well resources, the kid will turn up just fine.
Take a folate supplement. Just the cheap folate only ones will do if you have a healthy diet.
http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/consumer/generalissues/pregn...
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/folicacid/recommendations.html
Our doctor recommended to read just one book and one book only, in order to not get confused. On other side I've found that since a lot of books tend to contradict each other, most issues are not really issues at all, so we just do what feels right.
I found that the only one worthwile was the Parenting Stackexchange site: http://parenting.stackexchange.com/
(But even that one I've rarely used...)
As far as the prenatal diet, there are, to my understanding, two important elements. One is folate. The other is maintaining a healthy weight. Your wife isn't eating for two, she's eating for 1.1 or so. Although the crave-induced trips to the ice cream shop are fine for movies, being overweight is associated with complications during pregnancy and delivery. Not a doctor, this is just what I read as I read up on this during my own wife's pregnancy.
Early child rearing is pretty damn basic. Feed the kid as much as they will eat. Breastmilk is best, but formula is better than not having enough. They sleep better when well fed, so it can make the first few weeks a lot less hellish if you have some formula on hand if your wife's production isn't up yet. There's not anything else to it for at least 15 months from where you are now, so I wouldn't sweat those details yet. You'll have more than enough to deal with between now and then.
To err on the side of cautions, minimize the use of TV screens in the room where the baby is hanging out, even as background noise.
Hospital-grade breast pumps are more than worth the $90 rental fee. Even better if your insurance will pay.
Do whatever you can to resolve any conflict anti-patterns you have with your wife now. This part does not get easier once the baby arrives.
* This is both more work and more fun than you can imagine :).
* Don't dumb things down too much. I noticed my daughter can often understand more than I "expect" at the time, so I take care not to e.g. simplify how I speak/teach too much (clarity and repetition is important, but they make leaps all the time so don't hold back too much).
* Lots of people will offer an opinion, myself included, but find your own way. Do what comes naturally (although I am not what you'd call a natural with babies, once I had one of my own it feels natural after all).
* If your partner is doing most of the care while you work (common for the Mums still these days) do not underestimate how hard/tiring it is for her! It is relentless work/focus that is much more tiring than a day in an office (despite also being full of fun!). Get home early to spend time with your baby and help with the evening routine.
* You will start to value sleep like never before. ;)
The single best thing we've done is split child care responsibilities evenly. After the first year (when my wife was off full time and breast feeding) we moved to 4 days of work each, with our respective weekdays off used to look after our daughter. This has made my bond with her a lot closer, and I have the experience/knowledge to split shared care time better with my wife (often there is one "default" parent who ends up doing too much work).
For now, make sure the baby is healthy and everything is going well in there. High five your wife too - she's going to be carrying a lot all too soon!
As for the whole process, I found the best thing for me was simply learning from and observing fathers I respect and admire. My grandfather is probably one of the biggest influences on my own journey as a father, but I've done mt best to absorb what seems wise from many people I know.
In the end, just observe, absorb, learn - and discard what you consider unwise or not suited to how you want to be as a father,
And of course, many congratulations!!
Be realistic, and develop strategies to deal with the reality of having a second full-time job. I think this whole space is ripe for "lifehacker" style innovation, so go for it. Above all remember that it is not all about YOU anymore - it is about a little life you have created, and your happiness will no longer come from getting what you want on a daily basis, but from seeing this little life develop and flourish into a healthy and happy person.
And good luck!
I think it's important to take on board the suggestions of others because they provide useful external input. But ultimately what makes fatherhood so rewarding is seeing the way that both you and your child grow together as a result of the way you parent.
Good luck and have fun. But remember a lot of the time it won't be fun.
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Don't worry about any books or stuff. They're all pretty crappy. Some of them are written by people who have never even had children. Best advice I can offer:
1. If you find a problem, fix it. Don't worry too much about it occurring to start with. Most of them don't. Google is your friend here but stick to scientific solutions, not fad ones.
2. Don't get embroiled in political parenting campaigns like "breast is best" and all that. Just do whatever is comfortable.
3. Regarding prenatal nutrition, don't control it. Let her eat what she wants. Cravings are there for a reason. If you control it too much, a shrivelled rag will pop out without any extra body fat. Children get sick and need some extra incase they lose it. My other half lived on mixed grills and roast chicken and to quote our doctor, our children are abnormally well.
Edit: Couple more...
4. If you are sensitive to minor gore or bodily fluids, start trying to shake this now. They make regular appearances and you don't have time to get iffy about it.
5. Don't panic and always carry a towel. Good advice from Douglas Adams.
Pre-natal nutrition: it is difficult for a pregnant woman to eat too little. There's no evidence of harm to mother or baby from mild undernourishment (if we ignore some condistions related to a need for vitamin supplementation). There is plenty of evidence of harm to mothers and babies for over eating. The risks of significant harm or death go up a lot if the mother or baby is overweight. These risks include, rarely, death.
A pregnant woman with a sensible diet needs only an extra 200 calories per day.
I was goig off things like:
> don't control it.
> Let her eat what she wants.
> Cravings are there for a reason.
> If you control it too much, a shrivelled rag will pop out without any extra body fat.
> Children get sick and need some extra incase they lose it.
All of those comments err on the "extra weight is preferrable", but that's just not true. It's hard to have an underweight baby, it's very easy to have an overweight baby, and the risks of harm from overweight mother or baby need to be taken into account.
Strict diet control is likely to be more harmful than people realise. Many many people end up in hospital during pregnancy after controlling things very strictly. The amount of mothers following silly baby friendly diets results in a lot of faceplants and ICU trips and occasionally tears.
I was an NHS maternity ICU nurse for about 5 years and if your child is not healthy to begin with, the risks to mortality are off the scale if the baby is underweight. If you can't get them feeding pretty soon, they rely on metabolising that fat to get through anything in the first couple of weeks.
An overweight baby has some loose and non conclusive statistics tied to childhood obesity and maternal diabetes. With proper sizing scans, induction etc, the risks are minimal and the diabetes risk treatable (metformin, dietary changes).
Edit: batou again... also c-sections are something you want to avoid, having watched a couple, so you're right about a balance.
So, advising pregnant women to eat what they like, with no controls, increases risks and carries almost no benefit.
This is not suggesting that mothers should diet!
So there's not really any data.
Agree with your points for ref. It's all a compromise.
I'm saying "don't eat too much; you're not eating for two; a woman with a healthy diet only needs an extra 200 calories per day".
You seem to be saying "don't go on a very restrictive diet".
I agree with that. But I'd be interssted to see any research showing harms from mothers on restrictive diets.
And you seem to be underplaying the risks of macrosomal babies, which are considerable.
Fetal macrosomia is something I know all about. 3 children, 3 c-sections due to this but all three under 9'15 which is considered the high risk limit. There are risks, you are right and I'm well aware of them. However that isn't possible to completely build a causality chain with calorific intake. AFAIK there is no research on this.
Investigate sources of help for breast feeding. Most women want to; many experience problems, and by the time they've got help it's too late, they've bought all the bottles and formula and stopped breast feeding.
Your sleep is going to be totally disrupted. Sleep deprivation is used as a torture method so don't underestimate the disruption that lack of sleep can cause.
The first niece, now 7, is a spectacular human. Her parents are, in the kindest sense - and I truly mean this as a compliment - idiots. They don't take themselves seriously. They laugh. They go out, they have fun, they meet new people, they embrace life. Neither are rich, nor will they ever be.
I once said to my mam, "look at that kid. How is she so happy? How is that possible?!". Her response: all she's ever known is laughter and happiness. How could she not be like that?
So, my utterly unqualified advice: enjoy it. Smile and laugh a lot. Don't stress, especially not the little details. Everything will be just fine.
Congratulations!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Contented-Little-Baby-Book/dp/00...
And the other is the EASY (Eat, Active time, Sleep, You time) "system" I think explained in this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secrets-The-Baby-Whisperer-Communica...
All of these are just guides but we did find the schedules helpful. Telling you how when and how much your baby should be sleeping per day, eating at each feed etc. Of course none of it goes perfectly but it is good to have something to aim for!
Once our baby was big enough to eat solid foods my wife loved this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Annabel-Karmels-Complete-Toddler-Pla...
Don't use any "cry it out" (even the gentle ones, which Gina Ford's are not) until the child is at least six months old.