Ask HN: What can I do to turn things around and make my 30's “good”?
Good things in my life, to date:
- Finished my bachelors and masters degree from a good university.
- Was employed as a statistician in the online marketing industry for four years.
Bad things in my life, to date:
- Committed a felony sex offense while I was an undergraduate at university (ended up serving three years of probation).
- Lost my job several months ago and can't find new work as a result of not being able to pass background checks.
- Moved back in with my parents.
- Never had a girlfriend.
- Degenerative neurological disorder that's slowly taking over my life (a big reason for I have been lonely and likely contributed to my improprieties).
So here I am. I want to turn things around, have a good career as a statistician, and make a descent salary. What can I do to turn things around and improve my life so that when I'm 40, I'm not looking back on my 30's and thinking that it's been disappointing.
To be honest, I'm more interested in having a good job/salary than anything else. If I never have a girlfriend, that's fine, I'm "broken goods" so I understand why I'm less appealing to women.Good things in my life, to date:
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 143 ms ] threadBeing in demand (or needed) is sort of like having money: it doesn't have any direct correlation with mental health.
There's (generally) no background checks required for starting or running a business.
You have listed the constraints that currently apply to your life. Think about what sort of life you can create within those constraints, or how you can get around them.
Disclaimer: I don't exercise.
Whenever I'm overwhelmed with life, I focus on eating better, sleeping enough and getting some exercise. Inevitably one of those was out-of-whack, and always after less than a week I feel much, much better.
I'm no saint, and I go months without any significant exercise, though getting back to it always makes me feel better and helps me get back on top of life.
Your other options are mainly going to involve under the table jobs or freelancing, probably your only meaningful option if you want to continue in your previous line of work. Why not hang out your shingle as a contractor? Since you're not working anyway, it can't hurt! If you have contacts from previous jobs, get in touch with them and offer your services -- as a services corporation, not as an employee. You might have more success as a corporation than as a human.
Good luck!
workout, try to stay in shape as much as you can.
When you stop seeing yourself as broken goods it'll shine through. Besides, no one knows you until they want to know you. When you project your brokenness that's how they will see you too.
The felony: in some cases an attorney can get these reduced to a misdemeanor if you stay out of trouble several years after your probation is over. You might look into this.
The career: there probably aren't any shortcuts. Like a lot of other things, it's a numbers game. Keep sending out resumes and applications, the more the better. Try not to get discouraged (or, at least, don't let that stop you from putting out another resume and application). Do some work in the field. Do anything you can to get your foot in the door somewhere, to keep moving towards your goal. Internship maybe? Somewhere out there is someone who will give you an opportunity. You have to find them.
Keep working on and improving yourself. Get out and socialize if possible. (Meetup is good for this in a lot of areas.) Don't wallow too much in self-pity; learn to be happy with yourself and others will be happy with you too.
Your 20s is disappointing because you screwed up in a way that's going to affect you for a long time. So don't screw up; make your 30s about working towards your goals and recovering from your past decisions. Be stable and reliable and responsible -- become an adult.
Work hard to get a new job, even if it's a crappy one. This will be the key to help you turn your life around. I know it did for me. I struggled during my early late 20s too, and when I turned 30 it felt overwhelming... like what have I been doing with my life? But when I put my head down and started to work hard.
Career became my main focus in my 30s and while I am much older now, I can say without doubt, everything got better. I was able to not worry about money, date more, make more friends, indulge in personal interests, etc.
Use this time living at home to save, take any job related to your interest. Keep looking for better opportunities. Save more money. Get that job. Get that girl. Get your life turned around mentally and emotionally. Don't dwell on the past. Good luck!
Not to mention, it's a sex offense, he doesn't say could also possibly include being on the sex offender registry.
It's ironic that we talk of "right to forget" in Europe. USA, sex offenders are named and shamed for the rest of their lives as eternal perverts.
I don't know if it's really prevalent, but I know one anecdote that appeared to be like that. Some US States are making progress here, though -- see "Romeo and Juliet laws."
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He is married to that same person, and they have three kids together. Registered sex offender for life.
The Harris and Hanson analysis included a sample of 1,038 rapists. Recidivism estimates were reported for three distinct followup periods: 5 years, 10 years, and 15 years. Sexual recidivism rates for rapists, based on new charges or convictions, were 14 percent at 5 years, 21 percent at 10 years, and 24 percent at 15 years.
http://www.smart.gov/SOMAPI/sec1/ch5_recidivism.html
(That's for rapists specifically; the "all sex offenders" bucket has much lower overall rate)
What I would recommend instead, is save up a bit of money and move to another country (South America, Southeast Asia, even Eastern/Western Europe if you can swing it). There you will not fail background checks, and in many countries you can easily get a job teaching English (with or without a small amount of training) which will be more than enough to pay your bills. Your quality of life will be far higher than living with your parents.
Start a consultancy doing the skilled work you want while you pay your rent by teaching English. Work on your social skills, and probably the deep underlying reasons those skills are lacking (by the way, this will help building the consultant work over time). Take some psychedelics, get outside your comfort zone with people and activities, enmesh yourself in a new culture, learn a new language. This will all take time, and I'd encourage you to keep moving between cities or countries a bit until you find a situation that feels right and you don't want to leave.
You don't like who you are now, so become the new person you want to be. It will be a lot easier to do that in another country. Even if the felony would prevent you from getting a permanent visa immediately, you'll be able to indefinitely do visa runs in the vast majority of developing countries with little hassle.
By contrast if you simply go live in South America and teach English, you'll just be any other expat, and immersed in a normal local culture much more likely to help you become a sane, well-rounded human.
(for reference, I spent two weeks in a hostel in Marseilles with a creepy Algerian criminal in the FFL who'd been wounded/furloughed and was trying to obtain French citizenship along with a 19 year old in-denial gay Mormon who was attempting to join. The Algerian wound up making violent/rapey comments to at least three female friends)
the expat idea seem good.
Also worth reading Legionnaire by Simon Murray, although he seems to be more positive about the long term impact on his life.
Exactly what I did. Felon here too. I struggle to pass a background check (theft when I was 17; convicted many years later, and I'm now 24). However, I'm pretty open about what <actually> happened with my clients. I don't think I have a client who doesn't know the story, or my background when I was a little shithead. I get to know them well, as they do me.
I've never gotten a bad response.
The trajectory I was on before I met her was juvenile, selfish, and stupid. Then all of that changed rather dramatically: I met the woman who would become my wife, and she made me want to grow up and step up. My situation changed, when my mind changed.
But for every one of you, I'll find ten others who expected a relationship to pull them off a bad trajectory (esp. addiction), and instead found someone who enables, and often shares and promotes, their self-destruction.
* obsessively interested in/talking about tech or related "geek topics" above all other things (imagine you had a lawyer friend who talked of nothing but legal arcana, rumors about SCOTUS clerks, etc - it comes across as boring, myopic and self-involved)
* not good at listening and engaging with someone about their interests, making the right kind of eye contact, paying attention to subtle body language/tone of voice, understanding collaborative decision-making (wanna stop by my place?), etc.
* physical/life-upkeep stuff (including parent), not knowing how to cook food/play music/dance/enjoy shared physical activity
Basically, the things human beings connect on, especially in regards to a romantic connection, are innate to the human experience. These romantic connections have been happening since before humans even had language or civilization. It's about experiencing in some sense a shared reality with another being.
Information technology is like this telescoping pyramid of abstraction built upon itself, and people who are deep experts in tech tend to get lost in that and other worlds of abstractions, replacing the territory with the map, and losing the ability to have a real shared, authentic, embodied experience with another person.
One clue is you can have that experience with barely a word spoken - the number of relationships that began with little more than dancing and eye contact has got to be astonishing.
MDMA, Bikram Yoga, dance lessons, start a garden, volunteer at some charity or activist groups where you'll work with other people, rock climbing, get a dog ... something along those lines should help, assuming you actually do it authentically, not for the sake of logging it in HealthKit ;)
2. Start trying to meet more people and make more connections Friends, acquaintances, professional colleagues. Go to where people doing the type of statistics/marketing you're doing hang out, and get to know them. In-person is better than online, but if you're not near a major metropolitan area, online would be okay too.
You could, for instance, find some discussion forum devoted to marketing/statistics, and learn, post there, follow up, etc.
It doesn't have to be purely professional related, but if there's overlap between the work you want to do and the type of people you're meeting, you'll have more job offers. There's a number of studies showing that the vast majority of hires made aren't from applying blindly by sending in resumes, but based on recommendations and personal relationships.
So -- get to know more people. It'll probably also help with your self-esteem. I'd also recommend never calling yourself "broken goods" or similar again: the world's got enough antagonism in it without you getting on your own case.
But yeah, your main goal is get employed? Start meeting people, getting to know them, and showing your competence in the areas you'd like to be employed.
A lot of the issues you have could be the result of a distorted life perspective. Superficial advice like "lift weights" are not helpful. You need to change your thinking patterns to have results that last.
It makes every part of your life easier.
- Releases endorphines to make you happy
- Makes you more attractive
- Helps you burn more fat
- Helps your long term health
- Gives you something to put into your routine to have a healthy habit
- When you do it and stick to it, the downside is you have to listen to occasional ignorant comments by people who downplay the benefits of this.
- Your sex drive increases
- Testosterone / you become more dominant
It's not easy either - lifting weights takes a lot more effort than jogging. You're more likely to be characterized as a brute jock, as opposed to biking / jogging where it's all glib hipsters.
I'm not saying it's bad to do it, or that it won't have benefits, however it won't magically solve deep seated problems like bad thinking patterns or a distorted life point of view.
As a complementary activity, that's great but should not be taken as "the solution", because it's not and could be misleading for people that need guided therapy.
It's similar to people with eating disorders. Telling them "just eat healthy and work out" won't help them ( they have heard that for years). They "know" that they could eat better and they know all the benefits of working out but there are deeper issues / fears/ misconceptions that should be treated first.
Don't take it personal, just be aware that is not that simple.
"- Testosterone / you become more dominant"
You can be 5 feet tall, built on a cat frame and still be dominant. Being dominant is much more about how you interact socially. And no, being the 'tough' guy doesn't help.
You can feel more confidant if you have some more muscle mass, but that's about it.
Now, about the testosterone. Exercise will make your testosterone go up for only a few minutes to an hour, which doesn't do much of a difference. (Same for sex btw; levels go up AFTER sex.) Besides, if you lack the hormone in any serious matters, you should seek a physician. Other than that, why would you want more? Because you think it's in direct proportion to your manliness?
A friend of mine had an addiction and started with this and it worked out so well for him.
Next you need to hit the gym, and start small and try 3 days a week.
Second make some goals about things you want to get done before you reach next year.
Next do deep introspection, think about your self in the third person, and ask your self what you hate about yourself.
Go write it down and spend a everyday on one of those things and chip away at it by breaking it down into smaller tasks.
Lastly Smile people love other people who smile, it makes them more approachable.
Reddit says, 30 is the best of your life if you are not married or tied down to a relationship.
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMenOver30/comments/2a3zyp/is_bein...
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I think the psychological baggage of living with your parents, not having a girlfriend and having a degenerative neurological disorder is far greater than the criminal record. There are ways to reduce the implications of the sex offense on your life, as others suggested. But the other things are what will hold you back.
Consider adopting a meditation practice and practice being nice to yourself. Calling yourself "broken goods" isn't helping matters. The way you think of yourself is the way you carry yourself and how other people see you. Seek examples of happy, accomplished people with missing limbs or serious illnesses.
I found that with a decent salary, meaningful remote job, traveling across some of the most beautiful places in the world and eating amazing food, I came to realize I deeply miss my friends, lack having a local community, and a purpose and meaning in what I was doing.
My best advice if for you to seek ways to bring value to other people's lives through what you do. It doesn't have to be selfless, it can be as simple as writing a blog and sharing your journey. It may take a little while to figure out what brings you happiness, but whatever you do, even if you get a freelance/remote job, don't stay inside and work for days without meeting people. Coworking spaces and cafes are a much better alternative in your situation.
Part of the pursuit of an "interesting" lifestyle hopefully will get you into networking situations where you might find friends and maybe more romantic interests that share your pursuits.
Stop waiting to start somewhere, and just start.
I've learned that just being like "yo I can't pass a background check in case you were wondering" only opens up arms and minds. Though, to a felony sex offense... well, it couldn't have been that bad since you did 3 years probation. I got 5.
Reach out to some bigger recruiting agencies, and make sure to prepare yourself for an explanation. From what I've experienced, they'll do the background check, and then ship you off to companies where you won't have to pass theirs.
A question I have for you is this: How has finding a place to live gone for you?
Edit: just remembered that I'm off probation in late August. Yay.