The title itself labels Reddit users as terrorists (seems harsh), but it continues to label people as:
Toxic,
Misogynists,
Poisoned,
Racists,
Haters,
Trolls,
Pedophiles,
Basement-dwellers,
White supremacists,
Obnoxiously biased,
Sixth grade bullies,
Conspiracy theorists,
Unrepentant sex criminals,
Seething underground pool of excrement and bile,
Not belonging to "normal, decent portion of the human race"
To quote what the writer, Arthur Chu, wrote elsewhere:
> "In a war, a real war, a war for survival, you use all the weapons in your arsenal because you assume the enemy will use all the weapons in theirs. Because you understand that it IS a war."
This, is what he believes is war, and this is how he thinks it should be fought.
Niceness and civility are worthy goals, but that'll never happen at a place like Reddit. The poison is too culturally ingrained.
That's not to say there aren't nice people there, just as there are nice people in war zones, but they're not in charge and they get pushed around by forces beyond their control.
HackerNews is the only website that has had somebody call my employerer... because of a comment I made on an article that was later linked here. He made sure to let us know that he made a lot of hiring decisions in tech and wondered why I would upset him so much. That kind of toxicity isn't allowed on Reddit.
...the threats were e mails from HN. When trolls threaten you the appropriate response is to ignore them. Now I just don't know if the reason I can't find a job is because I am on a blacklist somewhere.
I personally left because it became highly approved / encouraged to call Ellen Pao a cunt every other post followed by all manner of racist bullshit. Lo-and-behold, the idiot neoreactionary mob was wrong again and Ellen was trying to protect the reddit culture, but there will be no apology, they'll just move on to the next faux-outrage that justifies their intense racism and misogyny.
When thinly veiled stormfront posts regularly make it to the front page of your forum, it's time to jump ship and watch the burning mess from afar.
People where mad at her because she obviously is a scammer, along with her husband.
Her rap sheet and her actions were the things that brought her animosity from the users. I do not support the view that it was because reddit users obviously hate women, all women and since Pao is a woman, they must hate her too.
I think a big tell here is that when someone is talking about a certain subset of the reddit userbase that acts in a certain way, that if one reads that and thinks the person was talking about everyone on reddit, then one may actually fall within the subset under discussion.
Her rap sheet? Obviously a scammer? Why is everything so dramatic?
Neither accusation had any bearing on her management of Reddit, and both are highly spurious. As far as I can tell, the entirety of the complaints against her are that her husbands hedge fund blew up and that she sued KPCB.. I'm glad that a mob of Internet trolls knows exactly what happened in both cases.
Have you actually read the Kleiner transcripts? She had better performance than many of her peers, faced actual harassment from senior partners but it didn't meet the threshold that the courts demand for her suit, so she lost. It was probably a good decision from the courts and she negotiated a settlement for not appealing -- this happens all the time.
I have no idea how any of this justifies literally thousands of people calling her racist and misogynist names.. And then having everyone of those comments upvoted to the hundreds or thousands of points. Talk about inane.
That's as far as you can tell. You are entitled to your opinion. If you opinion is that she was right in her lawsuit, that's fine. But the opinion a big part of redditors is that she made a frivolous lawsuit to cover the losses from her husband's scam. This is partially validated by the fact that the jury did not believe her claims.
It doesn't matter whether you think your opinion of her is the right one. I'm explaining to you that the reason why redditors hate her is not simply because she has a vagina and redditors hate all women.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 48.0 ms ] threadToxic, Misogynists, Poisoned, Racists, Haters, Trolls, Pedophiles, Basement-dwellers, White supremacists, Obnoxiously biased, Sixth grade bullies, Conspiracy theorists, Unrepentant sex criminals, Seething underground pool of excrement and bile, Not belonging to "normal, decent portion of the human race"
To quote what the writer, Arthur Chu, wrote elsewhere:
> "In a war, a real war, a war for survival, you use all the weapons in your arsenal because you assume the enemy will use all the weapons in theirs. Because you understand that it IS a war."
This, is what he believes is war, and this is how he thinks it should be fought.
Personally I'd prefer niceness and civility.
That's not to say there aren't nice people there, just as there are nice people in war zones, but they're not in charge and they get pushed around by forces beyond their control.
When thinly veiled stormfront posts regularly make it to the front page of your forum, it's time to jump ship and watch the burning mess from afar.
Her rap sheet and her actions were the things that brought her animosity from the users. I do not support the view that it was because reddit users obviously hate women, all women and since Pao is a woman, they must hate her too.
I think that position is inane.
Neither accusation had any bearing on her management of Reddit, and both are highly spurious. As far as I can tell, the entirety of the complaints against her are that her husbands hedge fund blew up and that she sued KPCB.. I'm glad that a mob of Internet trolls knows exactly what happened in both cases.
Have you actually read the Kleiner transcripts? She had better performance than many of her peers, faced actual harassment from senior partners but it didn't meet the threshold that the courts demand for her suit, so she lost. It was probably a good decision from the courts and she negotiated a settlement for not appealing -- this happens all the time.
I have no idea how any of this justifies literally thousands of people calling her racist and misogynist names.. And then having everyone of those comments upvoted to the hundreds or thousands of points. Talk about inane.
It doesn't matter whether you think your opinion of her is the right one. I'm explaining to you that the reason why redditors hate her is not simply because she has a vagina and redditors hate all women.