Those unregulated sub-frontier labs become the new frontier labs because they continue advancing. They advance with the benefit of the open weight models that US companies were forced to release.
> The law should apply to anyone selling model access to Americans So the US AI labs get taken out, and US companies fall behind on access, too? This is beyond unrealistic. > Our European and Asian allies would probably…
> Open-weight models are "decelerationist" Open weight models are accelerating AI adoption and make it easier for other labs to advance their own models. There is nothing decelerationist about it. This entire line of…
Your whole argument seems to rest on the idea that the AI race is entirely contained within the United States, where we can regulate them. And that no other country might just take the open weights and continue right on…
> It's a law, so nobody has to agree to anything. If want to sell access to a model, you have to open the weights. Laws don’t extend to the entire world. There are AI labs outside of the US that are not that far behind.…
> It follows if the goal is to deflate the bubble without popping it, The conversation was about AI safety, monitoring, and regulations, not bubbles. Forcing the weights to be opened to the world accomplishes the…
This is incoherent. The argument seems to be that releasing the weights would slow the frontier labs from raising money, which would give them less money, which would slow progress on AI. It assumed all labs in the…
> You start from incorrect premises by presupposing agreed-upon rules would never work anyway. The rules would never work on a global economy. If you think the entire world is going to shake hands and agree not to let…
> Sure - look at what is being done today with H1B visas and tariffs. I have some bad news for you if you bought into the idea that the tariffs were good for domestic jobs and the economy. > What is more important to…
> How do you keep companies from using the replaced talent as a seat warmer? Hire 1 or 2 accountants, give them a chair and a cubicle, and let AI do the rest of the work. I don’t think the proponents of these ideas care…
> Namely, restricting the use of AI in corporate environments so that it does not destroy the economy as it advances. Regulate what, exactly? Limit what AI corporations can use? Other countries would love that more than…
> The problem with psychoactive drugs, as I understand it, is not the lack of positive results. There are plenty of well recognized cases. There is a long way to go toward solid research on this topic. The studies that…
David Sacks stepped down in March.
Or they will use OpenAI, which allows guardians to complete age verification and enable work for kids age 13 to 17. Anthropic will likely open up, too. Right now both companies have more than enough demand and don't…
> hen I benchmarked it on a (spinning rust) HDD Yes, but as your article notes HDDs have different performance characteristics depending on where the sectors are physically located on the platter. If you could force the…
> Codex and Claude are both widely speculated to be sold at a loss (at least compared to API pricing) It's more likely that the API prices are highly profitable. I could see the subscription plans losing them money for…
Selling a product below its cost of production can be done as a loss leader or market share tactic, but eventually you need to sell things for at least what it costs to make them. Economic dumping is a specific scenario…
I treat OpenRouter as a central point to access specific providers. Pinning is a given for that use case. I’ve tried using un-pinned models and the experience is exactly as you described: Some providers are so…
> In Germany, this seems to be the case for a long time already. It’s the case everywhere. The date in the article is May. These links to the Claude help pages get submitted and upvoted on HN periodically. There is…
> If you'd told me 15 years ago that people would be running freely-distributed software originating from research labs in China on computers self-hosted in their own house as an alternative to authoritarian overreach…
Two things that have helped me with quickly recognizing these situations: Programming for MCUs. Less so today when multi-hundred MHz MCUs are cheap, but even several years ago there were a lot of products where you…
> 20 new bands a week is… I’ve met music lovers with hi-fi setups that maybe try 3 new albums a week! That’s really quite a lot. If you’re thinking albums and hi-fi setups, it would be a lot! A valuable part of…
> and I'd remind people that the relevant price isn't list price but what you actually pay. Fetching a Michael Jackson album out of a bargain bin for $1 is that album for a $1, If going to physical stores, sifting…
Blind conviction without nuanced considered harmful.
> I think people in the tech community have probably also noticed that it's rather popular to have an absolute opinion on the goodness or badness of these tools. For a while it seemed that having deeply held,…
Those unregulated sub-frontier labs become the new frontier labs because they continue advancing. They advance with the benefit of the open weight models that US companies were forced to release.
> The law should apply to anyone selling model access to Americans So the US AI labs get taken out, and US companies fall behind on access, too? This is beyond unrealistic. > Our European and Asian allies would probably…
> Open-weight models are "decelerationist" Open weight models are accelerating AI adoption and make it easier for other labs to advance their own models. There is nothing decelerationist about it. This entire line of…
Your whole argument seems to rest on the idea that the AI race is entirely contained within the United States, where we can regulate them. And that no other country might just take the open weights and continue right on…
> It's a law, so nobody has to agree to anything. If want to sell access to a model, you have to open the weights. Laws don’t extend to the entire world. There are AI labs outside of the US that are not that far behind.…
> It follows if the goal is to deflate the bubble without popping it, The conversation was about AI safety, monitoring, and regulations, not bubbles. Forcing the weights to be opened to the world accomplishes the…
This is incoherent. The argument seems to be that releasing the weights would slow the frontier labs from raising money, which would give them less money, which would slow progress on AI. It assumed all labs in the…
> You start from incorrect premises by presupposing agreed-upon rules would never work anyway. The rules would never work on a global economy. If you think the entire world is going to shake hands and agree not to let…
> Sure - look at what is being done today with H1B visas and tariffs. I have some bad news for you if you bought into the idea that the tariffs were good for domestic jobs and the economy. > What is more important to…
> How do you keep companies from using the replaced talent as a seat warmer? Hire 1 or 2 accountants, give them a chair and a cubicle, and let AI do the rest of the work. I don’t think the proponents of these ideas care…
> Namely, restricting the use of AI in corporate environments so that it does not destroy the economy as it advances. Regulate what, exactly? Limit what AI corporations can use? Other countries would love that more than…
> The problem with psychoactive drugs, as I understand it, is not the lack of positive results. There are plenty of well recognized cases. There is a long way to go toward solid research on this topic. The studies that…
David Sacks stepped down in March.
Or they will use OpenAI, which allows guardians to complete age verification and enable work for kids age 13 to 17. Anthropic will likely open up, too. Right now both companies have more than enough demand and don't…
> hen I benchmarked it on a (spinning rust) HDD Yes, but as your article notes HDDs have different performance characteristics depending on where the sectors are physically located on the platter. If you could force the…
> Codex and Claude are both widely speculated to be sold at a loss (at least compared to API pricing) It's more likely that the API prices are highly profitable. I could see the subscription plans losing them money for…
Selling a product below its cost of production can be done as a loss leader or market share tactic, but eventually you need to sell things for at least what it costs to make them. Economic dumping is a specific scenario…
I treat OpenRouter as a central point to access specific providers. Pinning is a given for that use case. I’ve tried using un-pinned models and the experience is exactly as you described: Some providers are so…
> In Germany, this seems to be the case for a long time already. It’s the case everywhere. The date in the article is May. These links to the Claude help pages get submitted and upvoted on HN periodically. There is…
> If you'd told me 15 years ago that people would be running freely-distributed software originating from research labs in China on computers self-hosted in their own house as an alternative to authoritarian overreach…
Two things that have helped me with quickly recognizing these situations: Programming for MCUs. Less so today when multi-hundred MHz MCUs are cheap, but even several years ago there were a lot of products where you…
> 20 new bands a week is… I’ve met music lovers with hi-fi setups that maybe try 3 new albums a week! That’s really quite a lot. If you’re thinking albums and hi-fi setups, it would be a lot! A valuable part of…
> and I'd remind people that the relevant price isn't list price but what you actually pay. Fetching a Michael Jackson album out of a bargain bin for $1 is that album for a $1, If going to physical stores, sifting…
Blind conviction without nuanced considered harmful.
> I think people in the tech community have probably also noticed that it's rather popular to have an absolute opinion on the goodness or badness of these tools. For a while it seemed that having deeply held,…