Right, that's basic Public Choice Theory, and it holds in all cases. With respect to transparency, there are really only two potential scenarios: 1. A closed an opaque political system operates outside of direct public…
Why do you suppose that?
Which is consistent with Wikipedia's naming policy, and the Wikipedia community already puts in the effort to sort out what primary names to use for things. If Google doesn't want to try to discern the proper "primary,…
> If you agree that AI is actually that powerful and has very legitimate concerns for safety, what are you even arguing about? I don't fully agree with either proposition, and in fact I think the least safe approaches…
> OK, so the fact that US senators are discussing harsher liability regimes therefore shows that your "regulatory capture" glove does not fit what is going on here. They're always discussing harsher liability regimes.…
> Other than banning the use of AI or severely restricting it so that AI can’t do most things (like tool calls) what is your alternative? Massive proliferation of local AI as far and wide as possible, with as many…
The problem here is that the "primary, common, local" name used in a country sometimes conflicts with what specific government institutions in those countries may "officially" use. In the situation with the Gulf, it's…
That's good, because the concept of "alignment" is itself is foolhardly and dangerous. Trying to get stochastic inference machines to always operate within to fuzzy-edged subjective principles that humans themselves…
> only they can restrain it (with great effort) More to the point: we need your help to restrain it, and we'll cooperate with and advise you fully in setting up a framework to restrain the whole industry.
> Regulatory capture is a real phenomenon, but I highly doubt these incidents were faked in order to advance regulatory capture. I don't think anyone is arguing that they were faked. > This type of elaborate conspiracy…
> Of course, there's still the "paperclip optimizer" problem. The paperclip maximizer scenario always seemed a bit convoluted to me. The first problem is that we'd need to expect that a model that's fundamentally built…
I'd say it's even closer to a 9/10 -- there has to be enough of a perception of a general threat to gain support for regulation, and making your own organization appear to need to be regulated, but also be willing and…
Wait, are you trying to argue that regulatory capture isn't real, or that the federal government is trustworthy enough to itself to give monopoly control over AI development to?
How do you figure money itself as a source of power, independent of political influence?
This subthread is a discussion about pertains to politicians misrepresenting their voting intentions in order to get donations. My comment was a response to an argument that allowing politicians to do this is a good…
> I think we may assume these sites won't go away So? If you can disengage from them, then your problem is solved. > and also that a personal blog is not a solution for the vast majority. It's not reasonable to presume…
Turtles all the way down, I guess.
Which makes the initial promise to vote a certain way in exchange for donations itself illegal. That seems fine. So what is the problem with transparency, again?
That seems like an assumption, and a counterintuitive one: wouldn't you expect someone getting "fleeced" by the political system to be motivated to pay attention due to that very fact? If you have a system of open…
Sounds like a sort of jury system added to the legislative process. That might actually be a workable idea as an additional safeguard/sanity check before bills can pass.
I don't think that the problem with legislative transparency is that there aren't enough middlemen sitting between the public and the legislative process. I'm personally not interested in being dependent on the press --…
It's amazing how you've managed to position "politicians were pursuing their own hidden agendas and then lying about it" as a desirable state of affairs. It sounds like they were defrauding people into giving them…
This is a basic concept of Public Choice Theory. People worrying about money in politics are overemphasizing the instrumentality of money, rather than the underlying structural incentives that tend toward special…
If you don't have the solutions, how do you verify Claude's work?
We were in the "Chase the Chuck Wagon" phase of the TV and movie industry long before AI was a factor.
Right, that's basic Public Choice Theory, and it holds in all cases. With respect to transparency, there are really only two potential scenarios: 1. A closed an opaque political system operates outside of direct public…
Why do you suppose that?
Which is consistent with Wikipedia's naming policy, and the Wikipedia community already puts in the effort to sort out what primary names to use for things. If Google doesn't want to try to discern the proper "primary,…
> If you agree that AI is actually that powerful and has very legitimate concerns for safety, what are you even arguing about? I don't fully agree with either proposition, and in fact I think the least safe approaches…
> OK, so the fact that US senators are discussing harsher liability regimes therefore shows that your "regulatory capture" glove does not fit what is going on here. They're always discussing harsher liability regimes.…
> Other than banning the use of AI or severely restricting it so that AI can’t do most things (like tool calls) what is your alternative? Massive proliferation of local AI as far and wide as possible, with as many…
The problem here is that the "primary, common, local" name used in a country sometimes conflicts with what specific government institutions in those countries may "officially" use. In the situation with the Gulf, it's…
That's good, because the concept of "alignment" is itself is foolhardly and dangerous. Trying to get stochastic inference machines to always operate within to fuzzy-edged subjective principles that humans themselves…
> only they can restrain it (with great effort) More to the point: we need your help to restrain it, and we'll cooperate with and advise you fully in setting up a framework to restrain the whole industry.
> Regulatory capture is a real phenomenon, but I highly doubt these incidents were faked in order to advance regulatory capture. I don't think anyone is arguing that they were faked. > This type of elaborate conspiracy…
> Of course, there's still the "paperclip optimizer" problem. The paperclip maximizer scenario always seemed a bit convoluted to me. The first problem is that we'd need to expect that a model that's fundamentally built…
I'd say it's even closer to a 9/10 -- there has to be enough of a perception of a general threat to gain support for regulation, and making your own organization appear to need to be regulated, but also be willing and…
Wait, are you trying to argue that regulatory capture isn't real, or that the federal government is trustworthy enough to itself to give monopoly control over AI development to?
How do you figure money itself as a source of power, independent of political influence?
This subthread is a discussion about pertains to politicians misrepresenting their voting intentions in order to get donations. My comment was a response to an argument that allowing politicians to do this is a good…
> I think we may assume these sites won't go away So? If you can disengage from them, then your problem is solved. > and also that a personal blog is not a solution for the vast majority. It's not reasonable to presume…
Turtles all the way down, I guess.
Which makes the initial promise to vote a certain way in exchange for donations itself illegal. That seems fine. So what is the problem with transparency, again?
That seems like an assumption, and a counterintuitive one: wouldn't you expect someone getting "fleeced" by the political system to be motivated to pay attention due to that very fact? If you have a system of open…
Sounds like a sort of jury system added to the legislative process. That might actually be a workable idea as an additional safeguard/sanity check before bills can pass.
I don't think that the problem with legislative transparency is that there aren't enough middlemen sitting between the public and the legislative process. I'm personally not interested in being dependent on the press --…
It's amazing how you've managed to position "politicians were pursuing their own hidden agendas and then lying about it" as a desirable state of affairs. It sounds like they were defrauding people into giving them…
This is a basic concept of Public Choice Theory. People worrying about money in politics are overemphasizing the instrumentality of money, rather than the underlying structural incentives that tend toward special…
If you don't have the solutions, how do you verify Claude's work?
We were in the "Chase the Chuck Wagon" phase of the TV and movie industry long before AI was a factor.