oh yeah, the article that explains that mistake and failure aren't the same thing doesn't contradict your point that mistake and failure are the same thing. man, I'm so glad you cleared that up for us...
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this is about as perfect an example of the problem as you can have.
it's not clear to me that you read or understood the article, all of your posts certainly feel as if you didn't. He explained why 0 isn't the goal, you continue to act as if he didn't. I don't know where else this…
there's a reason people say things like "actions speak louder than words". It's easy to say "safety is about tradeoffs" but then when you follow it up with an insistent that no tradeoffs should be made it kind of makes…
oh snap guys, do you see what he did there in his parley? The way he took my point and pretended I was saying something else and that I really agreed with him. That technique so got me that he won! This is most…
It's always easy to make a decision when you're not the one paying the cost for it, or don't imagine you will be. In fact, one of the red flags for decision makers is the inability to understand the above tenet.
We do have information. the guy is a whistleblower, went to court day 1, missed court day 2, and was found dead in his vehicle of unnatural causes. attaching the adjective vacuous doesn't actually strengthen your point.
lets not split hairs, if the redundancies kick in then the instrumentation didn't go away. > That is bad. But not as bad a FBW system bug. The event in question is better than the plane plummeting out of the sky and…
If you can't understand how the expense of doing that may be onerous on a business then you shouldn't be let anywhere near decision making.
ok that's a scenario I didn't fully consider, lmao. but humor aside, the point stands. safety/security is about tradeoffs.
> We see no realistic path for an evolution of C++ into a language with rigorous memory safety guarantees that include temporal safety. The point Herb was making is that "rigorous memory safety" isn't the only bar, nor…
> I have to say, this sentence annoys the heck out of me. > Old code that can't be understood needs to be rewritten anyway. I don't think it's that old code can't be understood, you can always understand what code is…
perhaps you should try the steelman technique rather than interpreting his words through a lense of negativity.
> Of the remaining crates which use "unsafe", the unsafe code is often contained to a tiny percentage of the code, so if we're looking at the overall amount of unsafe code, you're going from 100%, to a fraction of a…
how would you define concurrent access to a filesystem? That's a serious question, if I open a file for reading and another process writes to it, exactly how is the C++ standards supposed to protect against that?
that's how you get companies to stop upgrading and eventually end up sitting on a 20 y/o version of C++. 2nd and 3rd order thinking is a thing.
> Not to mention the weird conclusion that since no language has 0, that isn't the goal. I'm not sure I understand the logic that you shouldn't at least _try_ to not have any major security flaws. He addressed that, the…
which makes sense, if someone made an impression on you that impression doesn't disappear in just a few days. At best it may be fuzzier, which could be good or bad.
> The right are known for lying with the truth which makes a good amount of their rhetoric stick. replace right with humans, the left is also known for lying, which is why both sides are constantly bitching at each…
alleged is too strong. There's speculation which seems reasonable given the circumstances.
are we reading through the same set of comments? I see nothing wrong with people speculating over something like this.
the web is nigh-on unusable without an ad-blocker. When I was young no one really questioned ads in television shows, when I got to uni I kind of stopped watching anything but cable. Then netflix came out and I dropped…
oh yeah, the article that explains that mistake and failure aren't the same thing doesn't contradict your point that mistake and failure are the same thing. man, I'm so glad you cleared that up for us...
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this is about as perfect an example of the problem as you can have.
it's not clear to me that you read or understood the article, all of your posts certainly feel as if you didn't. He explained why 0 isn't the goal, you continue to act as if he didn't. I don't know where else this…
there's a reason people say things like "actions speak louder than words". It's easy to say "safety is about tradeoffs" but then when you follow it up with an insistent that no tradeoffs should be made it kind of makes…
oh snap guys, do you see what he did there in his parley? The way he took my point and pretended I was saying something else and that I really agreed with him. That technique so got me that he won! This is most…
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It's always easy to make a decision when you're not the one paying the cost for it, or don't imagine you will be. In fact, one of the red flags for decision makers is the inability to understand the above tenet.
We do have information. the guy is a whistleblower, went to court day 1, missed court day 2, and was found dead in his vehicle of unnatural causes. attaching the adjective vacuous doesn't actually strengthen your point.
lets not split hairs, if the redundancies kick in then the instrumentation didn't go away. > That is bad. But not as bad a FBW system bug. The event in question is better than the plane plummeting out of the sky and…
If you can't understand how the expense of doing that may be onerous on a business then you shouldn't be let anywhere near decision making.
ok that's a scenario I didn't fully consider, lmao. but humor aside, the point stands. safety/security is about tradeoffs.
> We see no realistic path for an evolution of C++ into a language with rigorous memory safety guarantees that include temporal safety. The point Herb was making is that "rigorous memory safety" isn't the only bar, nor…
> I have to say, this sentence annoys the heck out of me. > Old code that can't be understood needs to be rewritten anyway. I don't think it's that old code can't be understood, you can always understand what code is…
perhaps you should try the steelman technique rather than interpreting his words through a lense of negativity.
> Of the remaining crates which use "unsafe", the unsafe code is often contained to a tiny percentage of the code, so if we're looking at the overall amount of unsafe code, you're going from 100%, to a fraction of a…
how would you define concurrent access to a filesystem? That's a serious question, if I open a file for reading and another process writes to it, exactly how is the C++ standards supposed to protect against that?
that's how you get companies to stop upgrading and eventually end up sitting on a 20 y/o version of C++. 2nd and 3rd order thinking is a thing.
> Not to mention the weird conclusion that since no language has 0, that isn't the goal. I'm not sure I understand the logic that you shouldn't at least _try_ to not have any major security flaws. He addressed that, the…
which makes sense, if someone made an impression on you that impression doesn't disappear in just a few days. At best it may be fuzzier, which could be good or bad.
> The right are known for lying with the truth which makes a good amount of their rhetoric stick. replace right with humans, the left is also known for lying, which is why both sides are constantly bitching at each…
alleged is too strong. There's speculation which seems reasonable given the circumstances.
are we reading through the same set of comments? I see nothing wrong with people speculating over something like this.
the web is nigh-on unusable without an ad-blocker. When I was young no one really questioned ads in television shows, when I got to uni I kind of stopped watching anything but cable. Then netflix came out and I dropped…