The question is flawed. People who do not pay for ChatGPT often have money and prefer not to pay for for a subscription for several reasons including, but not exclusively: 1) They don't use ChatGPT often enough to…
Plot twist, the AI in the article was Amazon Mechanical Turk with a highly sensitive man falling in love.
Erm, I have embarked on this, and I have absolutely not arrived back to panpsychism. My conclusion is that panpsychism is god of the gaps for consciousness right now.
I genuinely think emergent property of sophisticated brain is much closer to the correct explanation than panpsychism in terms of usefulness, predictive power, etc., and likelihood of getting closer to a satisfying…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain But also, see the rest of my comment. The onus is not on me to arrive with a better explanation just because there's a bad explanation on the table. If I come home and find a…
While I don't like the radio analogy, I think we largely agree then. If interested, the reason I don't like the radio analogy is that it presupposes that the configuration of the brain, and inputs isn't fundamentally…
Emergent property of a sophisticated brain (with it's own weaknesses). But even if I didn't have a more compelling explanation, that doesn't mean I can't be highly critical of, or reach a conclusion that panpsychicism…
> Okay well that's silly and I've not met even one panpsychist who believes this "comparable to human conscious experience" portion You, yourself, and Philip Goff and others talk about how "we might want to treat trees…
I don't think we _all_ point at cat's behavior and conclude consciousness. I think its the behaviors you describe plus we see how anatomically similar to humans they are. As someone who believes consciousness is an…
I strongly agree with ergonaught, and disagree with what you're saying. This tiny interaction I think is the the entire problem with how panpsychists talk about this. Some panpsychists might try to actually say that…
I very much agree with this. It seems to me panpsychists make a redefinition of consciousness as some entirely alien, unrecognizable thing. So, if an atom is conscious, but has no sensory systems, no possibly way to…
"The emerging properties model is not unfeasible, we could test it" One thing you can do is disrupt the smaller individual components that make up the emergent property, and see if the property continues to exist. I.e.…
My strong personal assessment of this is that panpsychists (in general, if you can pin one down) are not talking about consciousness in a colloquial sense - but I think this is a mistake. I think the common…
I entirely agree with this, and I likewise think it's quite damning. But panpsychists don't see it this way. This is "the combination problem" and I predict they will never be able to solve this. Edit: I should…
This is compelling and I think many elements of the spirit of this are true. The only thing I would add is that it will be interesting to see if professional, medium/high budget, polished, "produced" content will remain…
I think about it often. toaster fucker problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25667362
And maybe they prefer developing in Swift and/or prefer Xcode?
Yes. And also during the Super Bowl festivities in 2016. It oddly wasn't as sensational back then, but made some news.
I think it's pretty fair to make this clarification and I don't fault a company for wanting to squash misinformation about their product. I found it to be a useful comment because I had no sense of the scale of the Tile…
That sounds oddly terrifying. Like gray goo devouring the world.
The claim is that some day innovations, and checks, and some other technologies will fix this and do all of this automatically, somehow. That's why it's still early days.
It's not a figure of speech. It's a very deliberate attempt at deeply mischaracterizing the position in an attempt to make it appear absurd. "Oh yeah, that's right, who would ever wake up one day and decide to be…
"You honestly, really think all those people just sat down one day and decided to be homesless Because they’d be coddled?!" Strictly speaking this is simply a straw man via oversimplification (as is nearly the entirety…
Not _shocked_ and/or _appalled_ by people literally dying of overdoses in the streets. Photo-albums strewn in the street when a burglar decided it was worthless and ditched it? A family purely distraught - the father…
I believe I am seeing the problem here. You are, presumably unintentionally, using a blanket descriptor "mentally ill" and "drug addicted" to describe an extremely wide spectrum of expressions. "Serious Mental Illness"…
The question is flawed. People who do not pay for ChatGPT often have money and prefer not to pay for for a subscription for several reasons including, but not exclusively: 1) They don't use ChatGPT often enough to…
Plot twist, the AI in the article was Amazon Mechanical Turk with a highly sensitive man falling in love.
Erm, I have embarked on this, and I have absolutely not arrived back to panpsychism. My conclusion is that panpsychism is god of the gaps for consciousness right now.
I genuinely think emergent property of sophisticated brain is much closer to the correct explanation than panpsychism in terms of usefulness, predictive power, etc., and likelihood of getting closer to a satisfying…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain But also, see the rest of my comment. The onus is not on me to arrive with a better explanation just because there's a bad explanation on the table. If I come home and find a…
While I don't like the radio analogy, I think we largely agree then. If interested, the reason I don't like the radio analogy is that it presupposes that the configuration of the brain, and inputs isn't fundamentally…
Emergent property of a sophisticated brain (with it's own weaknesses). But even if I didn't have a more compelling explanation, that doesn't mean I can't be highly critical of, or reach a conclusion that panpsychicism…
> Okay well that's silly and I've not met even one panpsychist who believes this "comparable to human conscious experience" portion You, yourself, and Philip Goff and others talk about how "we might want to treat trees…
I don't think we _all_ point at cat's behavior and conclude consciousness. I think its the behaviors you describe plus we see how anatomically similar to humans they are. As someone who believes consciousness is an…
I strongly agree with ergonaught, and disagree with what you're saying. This tiny interaction I think is the the entire problem with how panpsychists talk about this. Some panpsychists might try to actually say that…
I very much agree with this. It seems to me panpsychists make a redefinition of consciousness as some entirely alien, unrecognizable thing. So, if an atom is conscious, but has no sensory systems, no possibly way to…
"The emerging properties model is not unfeasible, we could test it" One thing you can do is disrupt the smaller individual components that make up the emergent property, and see if the property continues to exist. I.e.…
My strong personal assessment of this is that panpsychists (in general, if you can pin one down) are not talking about consciousness in a colloquial sense - but I think this is a mistake. I think the common…
I entirely agree with this, and I likewise think it's quite damning. But panpsychists don't see it this way. This is "the combination problem" and I predict they will never be able to solve this. Edit: I should…
This is compelling and I think many elements of the spirit of this are true. The only thing I would add is that it will be interesting to see if professional, medium/high budget, polished, "produced" content will remain…
I think about it often. toaster fucker problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25667362
And maybe they prefer developing in Swift and/or prefer Xcode?
Yes. And also during the Super Bowl festivities in 2016. It oddly wasn't as sensational back then, but made some news.
I think it's pretty fair to make this clarification and I don't fault a company for wanting to squash misinformation about their product. I found it to be a useful comment because I had no sense of the scale of the Tile…
That sounds oddly terrifying. Like gray goo devouring the world.
The claim is that some day innovations, and checks, and some other technologies will fix this and do all of this automatically, somehow. That's why it's still early days.
It's not a figure of speech. It's a very deliberate attempt at deeply mischaracterizing the position in an attempt to make it appear absurd. "Oh yeah, that's right, who would ever wake up one day and decide to be…
"You honestly, really think all those people just sat down one day and decided to be homesless Because they’d be coddled?!" Strictly speaking this is simply a straw man via oversimplification (as is nearly the entirety…
Not _shocked_ and/or _appalled_ by people literally dying of overdoses in the streets. Photo-albums strewn in the street when a burglar decided it was worthless and ditched it? A family purely distraught - the father…
I believe I am seeing the problem here. You are, presumably unintentionally, using a blanket descriptor "mentally ill" and "drug addicted" to describe an extremely wide spectrum of expressions. "Serious Mental Illness"…