>lift has some great ideas Such as? We tried really hard to use lift, but it was terrible. It is just an ugly mix of rails and seaside with a lot of un-fullfilled promises being used to market it. Like the type…
That chart is just plain bizarre. He appears to have placed languages randomly without even bothering to google the languages first to get even a vague idea of roughly where they might belong. I don't think he actually…
NetBSD and debian both customize 3rd party software to fit with the project's desired software policies. That is quite different from arch which just packages everything up as-is.
Which is why you submit a DELETE request to delete a comment right? Oh, you don't? Maybe it isn't actually how the web works after all.
You forgot the asterisk and the list of limitations, bugs and "features" that are like bugs in that they cause problems, only were done intentionally.
Or do none of those things and 100% of the above problems are still solved anyways.
That's a great example, as it shows anti-virus scammers are just as bad as the airport security scammers. Someone being named Osama Bin Laden has no bearing on their likelihood of hijacking a plane.
>into a generic, obvious, and uninteresting soundbite You forgot "accurate".
As saalweachter points out, it is also drawing a completely nonsense conclusion. Python is not orders of magnitude faster, he is running it on hardware that is orders of magnitude faster. It is actually about the same…
This is exactly what we need. Except that the pricing on S3 storage is just too high. It is way more expensive than just buying our own replicating storage and hosting one off site. 25TB in s3 is is $43,000/year. It…
This is an echo chamber. What you hear here is not indicative of real world relevance.
>Take advantage of all that extra time There is no extra time. You just moved time at night to time in the morning. You can take advantage of that time regardless of whether it is in the morning or the evening.
>Most languages can help you avoid using the wrong one through the use of variable names. That doesn't help at all, are you serious? Cause you genuinely sound like you are trolling. Especially when you say things…
>Erlang is interpreted No it isn't, it is compiled to bytecode and executed on a virtual machine, just like most scripting languages are. >Since this is not about a simple CGI application a benchmark in which…
I can try. Basically it is a PHP framework written in ruby. It has a really poor API that makes for very error prone coding. It completely fucked up the entire MVC architecture, creating a big fat controller layer that…
The model side of things is certainly my biggest complaint. The other things are minor in comparison, but still annoying. I like the architecture of lift, just not some of the details of the implementation. I don't like…
Yes. Scala lets you bypass the compile time type safety pretty easily, and as a result tons of libraries do precisely that. Take squeryl for example, it advertises itself as a type safe DSL for querying databases, but…
>For complex template rendering/delivery, Erlang will probably beat anything out there because of Erlang's intelligent use of immutable data and I/O lists. What templating engine are you talking about? I'd assume…
I'm not a huge fan of lift, but the portion of it I am ok with (the templates/snippets side of things) is fairly similar to how you use snap. It may be worth it to work on helping to finish snap (or forking it if need…
Ah, yes we weren't looking for functional languages specifically, just languages with expressive type systems. As far as I know, the only languages with expressive type systems are also functional so we end up with a…
>Is anyone here using haskell or a similar funtional language for any web app? Yes. >Would be interested in known your experiences and opinion compared to something like django or rails. Rails is an abomination,…
>I think there's a very real danger you guys aren't hearing stuff like this because who in their right mind would tell you and who would you listen to? Tons of people have told him he's a pompous blowhard. The…
You seriously think repeating conspiracy theory bullshit magically turns it into fact?
So how does that support your initial reaction at all? Comics aren't NSFW just because you work in a shithole. Tons of things get posted here that aren't related to software development, you think they should all be…
If it is their New Coke, then what you mean is they can roll it back to something exactly the same, and then have conspiracy nuts repeat nonsense claims that it is different now. New Coke was not a way to distract…
>lift has some great ideas Such as? We tried really hard to use lift, but it was terrible. It is just an ugly mix of rails and seaside with a lot of un-fullfilled promises being used to market it. Like the type…
That chart is just plain bizarre. He appears to have placed languages randomly without even bothering to google the languages first to get even a vague idea of roughly where they might belong. I don't think he actually…
NetBSD and debian both customize 3rd party software to fit with the project's desired software policies. That is quite different from arch which just packages everything up as-is.
Which is why you submit a DELETE request to delete a comment right? Oh, you don't? Maybe it isn't actually how the web works after all.
You forgot the asterisk and the list of limitations, bugs and "features" that are like bugs in that they cause problems, only were done intentionally.
Or do none of those things and 100% of the above problems are still solved anyways.
That's a great example, as it shows anti-virus scammers are just as bad as the airport security scammers. Someone being named Osama Bin Laden has no bearing on their likelihood of hijacking a plane.
>into a generic, obvious, and uninteresting soundbite You forgot "accurate".
As saalweachter points out, it is also drawing a completely nonsense conclusion. Python is not orders of magnitude faster, he is running it on hardware that is orders of magnitude faster. It is actually about the same…
This is exactly what we need. Except that the pricing on S3 storage is just too high. It is way more expensive than just buying our own replicating storage and hosting one off site. 25TB in s3 is is $43,000/year. It…
This is an echo chamber. What you hear here is not indicative of real world relevance.
>Take advantage of all that extra time There is no extra time. You just moved time at night to time in the morning. You can take advantage of that time regardless of whether it is in the morning or the evening.
>Most languages can help you avoid using the wrong one through the use of variable names. That doesn't help at all, are you serious? Cause you genuinely sound like you are trolling. Especially when you say things…
>Erlang is interpreted No it isn't, it is compiled to bytecode and executed on a virtual machine, just like most scripting languages are. >Since this is not about a simple CGI application a benchmark in which…
I can try. Basically it is a PHP framework written in ruby. It has a really poor API that makes for very error prone coding. It completely fucked up the entire MVC architecture, creating a big fat controller layer that…
The model side of things is certainly my biggest complaint. The other things are minor in comparison, but still annoying. I like the architecture of lift, just not some of the details of the implementation. I don't like…
Yes. Scala lets you bypass the compile time type safety pretty easily, and as a result tons of libraries do precisely that. Take squeryl for example, it advertises itself as a type safe DSL for querying databases, but…
>For complex template rendering/delivery, Erlang will probably beat anything out there because of Erlang's intelligent use of immutable data and I/O lists. What templating engine are you talking about? I'd assume…
I'm not a huge fan of lift, but the portion of it I am ok with (the templates/snippets side of things) is fairly similar to how you use snap. It may be worth it to work on helping to finish snap (or forking it if need…
Ah, yes we weren't looking for functional languages specifically, just languages with expressive type systems. As far as I know, the only languages with expressive type systems are also functional so we end up with a…
>Is anyone here using haskell or a similar funtional language for any web app? Yes. >Would be interested in known your experiences and opinion compared to something like django or rails. Rails is an abomination,…
>I think there's a very real danger you guys aren't hearing stuff like this because who in their right mind would tell you and who would you listen to? Tons of people have told him he's a pompous blowhard. The…
You seriously think repeating conspiracy theory bullshit magically turns it into fact?
So how does that support your initial reaction at all? Comics aren't NSFW just because you work in a shithole. Tons of things get posted here that aren't related to software development, you think they should all be…
If it is their New Coke, then what you mean is they can roll it back to something exactly the same, and then have conspiracy nuts repeat nonsense claims that it is different now. New Coke was not a way to distract…