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This has nothing to do with expectations - it's an inquiry into why something is worse now, without a clear justification.
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If your reaction is personal outrage at me rather than considering the issue at hand, you are probably too emotionally involved to form a useful opinion.
You're making things up about me (all untrue, incidentally) so you can write off my argument as heartless or something instead of actually addressing it.
Why would I want to talk to someone about an issue I couldn't possibly expect them to have a rational opinion on? > One of the frustrating aspects of arguments like this Is people insisting on making a society-scale…
Very sad stuff, but nonetheless I have zero interest in subsidizing your social preferences (either through regulation or litigation costs). Lots of people live good lives without going to restaurants all the time. Have…
> Schools started doing so because it became a serious liability issue with kids weaponizing it for bullying and leading to death This sounds completely absurd and hyperbolic, but let's say I took it at face value - why…
"Free speech" is not the notion of "say whatever you want regardless of if it's helpful"; it's "don't prevent people from saying things that are subjectively unhelpful". Free speech "pragmatism" is essentially…
I guarantee you that schools were not throwing out peanut butter sandwiches when I was a kid, and many of the schools I went to are doing so now. I'm sure you can find an article about peanut allergies at any point in…
> it is not "socially efficient" to make any accommodations to disability More or less. The overwhelming majority of legally mandated disability subsidies in the US are horrendously anti-utilitarian. > It would be…
> Soylent Green is “socially efficient.” No it's not, but it's a good sniff test for people who have a zeroth-order model of utilitarianism and aren't thinking about things like incentives. > It’s increasing, for some…
Federal laws mandating absurdly costly subsidies of very small minorities is not what "high-trust society" means. You're right in one sense - living in a low-trust society is very socially inefficient. I just don't…
We shouldn't be doing either of these things. It wasn't a serious problem 20 years ago when kids would bring whatever allergens to lunch. Throwing away peanut foods is an absurd overreaction and misdirection of…
Why don't you just stop eating at restaurants and/or take appropriate steps to protect yourself?
> The odds that a homemade food stand accidentally gives a stray peanut to a consumer with a deadly allergy are low The odds per food item consumed are higher for small food businesses that aren't as easily forced into…
What are you expecting, a post where you say "you're not allowed to talk about controversial topics"? No, the way this works is that a controversial topic comes up, an interesting conversation ensues, you see something…
> At least for me, the idea of HN being a place where people exercise free flowing polarizing ideas is pretty foreign Precisely. HN used to be a lot more about discussing novel/controversial ideas freely. That kind of…
While I really dislike the track of moderation policy on HN over the last 5+ years, I do have a lot of respect for dang being willing to engage in earnest discussion about moderation when prompted.
The guidelines are (I assume intentionally) vague enough that moderation can selectively object to basically anything, claim it's on the basis of tone/personal attack/flamewar risk/etc, link to the guidelines with no…
> it also gradually managed to cure me from free-speech absolutism It's entirely unsurprising that people who appreciate current moderator behavior also have zero philosophical backbone.
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This has nothing to do with expectations - it's an inquiry into why something is worse now, without a clear justification.
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If your reaction is personal outrage at me rather than considering the issue at hand, you are probably too emotionally involved to form a useful opinion.
You're making things up about me (all untrue, incidentally) so you can write off my argument as heartless or something instead of actually addressing it.
Why would I want to talk to someone about an issue I couldn't possibly expect them to have a rational opinion on? > One of the frustrating aspects of arguments like this Is people insisting on making a society-scale…
Very sad stuff, but nonetheless I have zero interest in subsidizing your social preferences (either through regulation or litigation costs). Lots of people live good lives without going to restaurants all the time. Have…
> Schools started doing so because it became a serious liability issue with kids weaponizing it for bullying and leading to death This sounds completely absurd and hyperbolic, but let's say I took it at face value - why…
"Free speech" is not the notion of "say whatever you want regardless of if it's helpful"; it's "don't prevent people from saying things that are subjectively unhelpful". Free speech "pragmatism" is essentially…
I guarantee you that schools were not throwing out peanut butter sandwiches when I was a kid, and many of the schools I went to are doing so now. I'm sure you can find an article about peanut allergies at any point in…
> it is not "socially efficient" to make any accommodations to disability More or less. The overwhelming majority of legally mandated disability subsidies in the US are horrendously anti-utilitarian. > It would be…
> Soylent Green is “socially efficient.” No it's not, but it's a good sniff test for people who have a zeroth-order model of utilitarianism and aren't thinking about things like incentives. > It’s increasing, for some…
Federal laws mandating absurdly costly subsidies of very small minorities is not what "high-trust society" means. You're right in one sense - living in a low-trust society is very socially inefficient. I just don't…
We shouldn't be doing either of these things. It wasn't a serious problem 20 years ago when kids would bring whatever allergens to lunch. Throwing away peanut foods is an absurd overreaction and misdirection of…
Why don't you just stop eating at restaurants and/or take appropriate steps to protect yourself?
> The odds that a homemade food stand accidentally gives a stray peanut to a consumer with a deadly allergy are low The odds per food item consumed are higher for small food businesses that aren't as easily forced into…
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What are you expecting, a post where you say "you're not allowed to talk about controversial topics"? No, the way this works is that a controversial topic comes up, an interesting conversation ensues, you see something…
> At least for me, the idea of HN being a place where people exercise free flowing polarizing ideas is pretty foreign Precisely. HN used to be a lot more about discussing novel/controversial ideas freely. That kind of…
While I really dislike the track of moderation policy on HN over the last 5+ years, I do have a lot of respect for dang being willing to engage in earnest discussion about moderation when prompted.
The guidelines are (I assume intentionally) vague enough that moderation can selectively object to basically anything, claim it's on the basis of tone/personal attack/flamewar risk/etc, link to the guidelines with no…
> it also gradually managed to cure me from free-speech absolutism It's entirely unsurprising that people who appreciate current moderator behavior also have zero philosophical backbone.
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