>4C by 2100 is pretty far outside of the model projections. I'm not saying it's impossible - we all know there are some long tail uncertainties to climate projections - but for the most part, it's contraindicated by a…
> US emissions has declined in real terms since 2000, and has plummeted rapidly on a per capita basis. And yet we still have some of the highest per capita emissions in the world. Nearly tied with Russia for "highest…
> The more realistic climate scientists think we will blow past 2c by roughly 2035. We are on track to 3c by 2050 I keep hearing this, but not from the climate science community, but from laypeople. I don't understand…
Sure. But again, compare our current GHG emissions per capita. Or set aside new electrical energy capacity, and instead look at other GHG sources: automobiles, agriculture, concrete. Are we doing well there? Mostly, no,…
> You are making a disingenuous attempt at shifting blame onto the west. What makes this disingenuous? I thought I was pretty clear and honest about my belief that the West is to blame for a huge portion of the warming…
> The biggest lie we're being told in the west is that we have a hand in climate change. If you look at total historic emissions to date, the US is responsible for 25% of all of them, and the EU is close behind at 22%.…
I can still read it; it’s just been downvoted afaict. But it does seem like a bad comparison if what the other commenter said is true. I mean, here we’re talking about a lot of legitimate research being cut for absurd…
Well, we'd still expect CO2. (Do the SO2 and NO2 get scrubbed? And - what else?) Edit: read the wikipedia link someone gave below. Yes, SO2 and NO2 and particulates are scrubbed. Older incinerators released a fair…
> The problem is that the statutory fines need to be setup so that they are actually a deterrent rather than a cost of doing business Out of curiosity, how high are the fines now? > Why 100%? Because they should be…
> I dont understand how this one comes up thay often. It just sounds like the most useless thing ever. These literally make me suspect I am only one who cooks here while others kind of imagine what it might be like or…
> What is _your_ default assumption re: use case? I honestly can't think of any use cases (outside of very niche a11y uses) that are not in some way offensive, though perhaps not 'perverted'. Hmm, here's a few that…
> You're not allowed to sell illegal drugs on the street? ... Or that police should look the other way bc it's too heavy handed to just detain the few dozen ppl that do this until they stop. I don't think you need to…
Man outlines how hardened criminals take down Flock cameras, detailing it step-by-step: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1v78ihu/...
> How many indignities do you stomach for what exactly? People selling handbags neither threatens my dignity nor makes me indignant. When I think of "terrorize", I think of things like.. y'know, people strapped with…
> "filth and crime" checks, it's "people selling untaxed marijuana" Yeahhhh, we have radically different ideas about what constitutes "they're terrorizing my city". Casual use of heavy-handed law enforcement makes…
The "goal" here, not in the sense of what AI scientists are shooting for, but in terms of "goal", "goalpost", and the idiom of "moving the goalposts", would be to invalidate the current argument. Typically, you "goal"…
> this is not a research paper from a startup or a public frontier lab, it is just PR from a corporation If they're publishing the solutions to these 10 problems, then this is, essentially, the announcement of 10…
And a lot of condensed matter physics. Type II superconductivity is a well-known one, but there are a lot of more less well-known ones
> If we didn't move the goalposts, then by definition we already knew exactly where we were headed at the beginning, and we very clearly did not. To me, the goalposts were already defined by the person you were…
The unified position which many folks deny is "AI is powerful" or, alternatively, "AI will be powerful soon". (I'm personally still skeptical about this, but I'm being pulled towards accepting it). "AI is useful" is too…
Reading both your comments, I don't see them suggest that only human brains are capable of experience. Not even "only animal brains", for that matter.
> The question of whether they reason is meaningless. I'd disagree. Reason is the most reliable way we currently have of drawing conclusions (fewest false negatives, at least), so if we want to build AI that can draw…
> It does zero good "for me" but hopefully someone thinks twice the next time before expressing such a dumb incorrect opinion. Well, I doubt it's going to change anyone's mind if it violates the community guidelines and…
Not ethically better, though. At least in the US, 99% of all pork is factory-farmed, and in much of that the pigs live their whole lives in a stall too small to turn around in. Pigs are as smart as dogs, and have…
You can view the guidelines here, at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I don't think you need to attack someone personally, even if you believe they are promoting products that harm people's mental and…
>4C by 2100 is pretty far outside of the model projections. I'm not saying it's impossible - we all know there are some long tail uncertainties to climate projections - but for the most part, it's contraindicated by a…
> US emissions has declined in real terms since 2000, and has plummeted rapidly on a per capita basis. And yet we still have some of the highest per capita emissions in the world. Nearly tied with Russia for "highest…
> The more realistic climate scientists think we will blow past 2c by roughly 2035. We are on track to 3c by 2050 I keep hearing this, but not from the climate science community, but from laypeople. I don't understand…
Sure. But again, compare our current GHG emissions per capita. Or set aside new electrical energy capacity, and instead look at other GHG sources: automobiles, agriculture, concrete. Are we doing well there? Mostly, no,…
> You are making a disingenuous attempt at shifting blame onto the west. What makes this disingenuous? I thought I was pretty clear and honest about my belief that the West is to blame for a huge portion of the warming…
> The biggest lie we're being told in the west is that we have a hand in climate change. If you look at total historic emissions to date, the US is responsible for 25% of all of them, and the EU is close behind at 22%.…
I can still read it; it’s just been downvoted afaict. But it does seem like a bad comparison if what the other commenter said is true. I mean, here we’re talking about a lot of legitimate research being cut for absurd…
Well, we'd still expect CO2. (Do the SO2 and NO2 get scrubbed? And - what else?) Edit: read the wikipedia link someone gave below. Yes, SO2 and NO2 and particulates are scrubbed. Older incinerators released a fair…
> The problem is that the statutory fines need to be setup so that they are actually a deterrent rather than a cost of doing business Out of curiosity, how high are the fines now? > Why 100%? Because they should be…
> I dont understand how this one comes up thay often. It just sounds like the most useless thing ever. These literally make me suspect I am only one who cooks here while others kind of imagine what it might be like or…
> What is _your_ default assumption re: use case? I honestly can't think of any use cases (outside of very niche a11y uses) that are not in some way offensive, though perhaps not 'perverted'. Hmm, here's a few that…
> You're not allowed to sell illegal drugs on the street? ... Or that police should look the other way bc it's too heavy handed to just detain the few dozen ppl that do this until they stop. I don't think you need to…
Man outlines how hardened criminals take down Flock cameras, detailing it step-by-step: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1v78ihu/...
> How many indignities do you stomach for what exactly? People selling handbags neither threatens my dignity nor makes me indignant. When I think of "terrorize", I think of things like.. y'know, people strapped with…
> "filth and crime" checks, it's "people selling untaxed marijuana" Yeahhhh, we have radically different ideas about what constitutes "they're terrorizing my city". Casual use of heavy-handed law enforcement makes…
The "goal" here, not in the sense of what AI scientists are shooting for, but in terms of "goal", "goalpost", and the idiom of "moving the goalposts", would be to invalidate the current argument. Typically, you "goal"…
> this is not a research paper from a startup or a public frontier lab, it is just PR from a corporation If they're publishing the solutions to these 10 problems, then this is, essentially, the announcement of 10…
And a lot of condensed matter physics. Type II superconductivity is a well-known one, but there are a lot of more less well-known ones
> If we didn't move the goalposts, then by definition we already knew exactly where we were headed at the beginning, and we very clearly did not. To me, the goalposts were already defined by the person you were…
The unified position which many folks deny is "AI is powerful" or, alternatively, "AI will be powerful soon". (I'm personally still skeptical about this, but I'm being pulled towards accepting it). "AI is useful" is too…
Reading both your comments, I don't see them suggest that only human brains are capable of experience. Not even "only animal brains", for that matter.
> The question of whether they reason is meaningless. I'd disagree. Reason is the most reliable way we currently have of drawing conclusions (fewest false negatives, at least), so if we want to build AI that can draw…
> It does zero good "for me" but hopefully someone thinks twice the next time before expressing such a dumb incorrect opinion. Well, I doubt it's going to change anyone's mind if it violates the community guidelines and…
Not ethically better, though. At least in the US, 99% of all pork is factory-farmed, and in much of that the pigs live their whole lives in a stall too small to turn around in. Pigs are as smart as dogs, and have…
You can view the guidelines here, at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I don't think you need to attack someone personally, even if you believe they are promoting products that harm people's mental and…