> In the case of GNOME it is not apathy towards choice but corporate backing. That's what it looks like to me as well but whenever this is asserted, GNOME folks are quick to point out that they are understaffed and…
> There is no reasonable argument to make for a Chromium only web from anyone without vested interests. It could be just apathy towards choice. I've observed this behavior among GNOME advocates as well. Some of them…
All the GTK4 apps I know all exclusive to their specific platforms. Most of them are being made exclusively for GNOME. Some of them have been made exclusively for elementary. I'm not interested if it's technically…
> It could be any DE, even a newly created one. Like I said earlier, > but I don't appreciate when people call everything else besides GNOME (or *anything really*) as fragmentation. The idea of "one agreed upon blessed…
> What do those even mean and why should I care? If you don't like configuration, you shouldn't care. Just pick any popular distro and use whatever's shipped by default.
> Some people don't want to configure everything about their desktop. Most people don't. They just want something that looks nice and feels good to use. And that would be completely fine were it not for parent posts…
Yes, let's search for the One True Font, One True Theme, and Unicorns while we're at it. Oh, let's also pretend that we'll give users a choice. Well, technically, we will but we will make it "unsupported" and call it a…
Good job misleading everyone and painting a rosy picture of India because yay, nationalism. There is a data cap on broadband. It's called "commercial usage terms" and it defines a data cap of 3.3TB a month often written…
> This is trying to paint someone as being stubborn here after they already changed their mind I just pointed it out because as I said, this behaviour is fairly common on the GNOME issue tracker. There are numerous…
> or bad text rendering on non-hidpi displays suck, but both have people working on fixing them. It wasn't even acknowledged as a bug in the beginning, even after screenshots with clear signs of regression were posted.…
> As a KDE user i have to download hundreds of MBs of dependencies just to use one GNOME app which is why I later clarified that I think that development of apps like qBittorrent is mostly dead. They work well across…
> ...Changing the default fonts is definitely supported. Not for the GNOME shell, unless you're editing the relevant CSS files in /usr/share/themes or installing themes that do so. And if you do end up doing that, you…
> Qt says hi. Yeah, Qt feels better to use compared to GTK but with bugs like these https://bugreports.qt.io/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/QTBUG-... and having to pull in hundreds of MBs of dependencies to use just one…
> Libadwaita is the library you use when you're targetting GNOME. > If you want to target something other than GNOME, you don't want to use libadwaita. Does GTK4 provide any viable model of development if one doesn't…
This is the most misleading part of the entire text on that website, almost as if it was written by a skilled poltician who knows how to lie on your face. They say that they're not against tinkerers but that's exactly…
With the advent of libadwaita, GTK really is GNOME toolkit. Most advocates are really deceptive when they talk about this and say GTK4 is agnostic to platforms but I haven't come across a single non-trivial GTK4 app…
Ah yes, the "every preference has a cost" philosophy which leads people into deciding things like that everyone on Earth is ok with a One True Colorscheme (Adwaita) and a One True Font (Cantarell). People who suffer…
Of the top of my head, people who are working on Android UX and the GNOME desktop environment.
Unfortunately, spectacle doesn't work on Sway, at least it didn't the last time I tried it a few months ago.
> Their own screenshot tool does not adhere to the same workflow, so maybe they are blind to the issue. Which isn't surprising, in the least. I agree with aidenn0, if you're using a custom screenshot tool, you're not…
> Linux has never been about choice. There was choice because no two people could agree on a set of protocols and standards. And slowly we're converging on a small set of decent (not perfect!) ideas volunteers can focus…
> Yes, you should also remember that when using third-party KDE themes like qt5ct, or hidden KDE settings I don't have much skin in the game to be honest because I've given up on using any GUI apps on Linux wherever…
Interesting, I'll remember this the next time someone tells me to just use GNOME Tweak Tool to use Emacs keybindings or change the theme or keyboard shortcuts because they're unsupported features and maybe disabled…
> there isn't a reality where this does whatever you want I wish something called user choice and configuration options existed in this reality.
> The tweak tool method was also an unsupported third-party thing with most of the same limitations. Interesting, so what was and is the supported first party method to change themes and set keyboard shortcuts and use…
> In the case of GNOME it is not apathy towards choice but corporate backing. That's what it looks like to me as well but whenever this is asserted, GNOME folks are quick to point out that they are understaffed and…
> There is no reasonable argument to make for a Chromium only web from anyone without vested interests. It could be just apathy towards choice. I've observed this behavior among GNOME advocates as well. Some of them…
All the GTK4 apps I know all exclusive to their specific platforms. Most of them are being made exclusively for GNOME. Some of them have been made exclusively for elementary. I'm not interested if it's technically…
> It could be any DE, even a newly created one. Like I said earlier, > but I don't appreciate when people call everything else besides GNOME (or *anything really*) as fragmentation. The idea of "one agreed upon blessed…
> What do those even mean and why should I care? If you don't like configuration, you shouldn't care. Just pick any popular distro and use whatever's shipped by default.
> Some people don't want to configure everything about their desktop. Most people don't. They just want something that looks nice and feels good to use. And that would be completely fine were it not for parent posts…
Yes, let's search for the One True Font, One True Theme, and Unicorns while we're at it. Oh, let's also pretend that we'll give users a choice. Well, technically, we will but we will make it "unsupported" and call it a…
Good job misleading everyone and painting a rosy picture of India because yay, nationalism. There is a data cap on broadband. It's called "commercial usage terms" and it defines a data cap of 3.3TB a month often written…
> This is trying to paint someone as being stubborn here after they already changed their mind I just pointed it out because as I said, this behaviour is fairly common on the GNOME issue tracker. There are numerous…
> or bad text rendering on non-hidpi displays suck, but both have people working on fixing them. It wasn't even acknowledged as a bug in the beginning, even after screenshots with clear signs of regression were posted.…
> As a KDE user i have to download hundreds of MBs of dependencies just to use one GNOME app which is why I later clarified that I think that development of apps like qBittorrent is mostly dead. They work well across…
> ...Changing the default fonts is definitely supported. Not for the GNOME shell, unless you're editing the relevant CSS files in /usr/share/themes or installing themes that do so. And if you do end up doing that, you…
> Qt says hi. Yeah, Qt feels better to use compared to GTK but with bugs like these https://bugreports.qt.io/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/QTBUG-... and having to pull in hundreds of MBs of dependencies to use just one…
> Libadwaita is the library you use when you're targetting GNOME. > If you want to target something other than GNOME, you don't want to use libadwaita. Does GTK4 provide any viable model of development if one doesn't…
This is the most misleading part of the entire text on that website, almost as if it was written by a skilled poltician who knows how to lie on your face. They say that they're not against tinkerers but that's exactly…
With the advent of libadwaita, GTK really is GNOME toolkit. Most advocates are really deceptive when they talk about this and say GTK4 is agnostic to platforms but I haven't come across a single non-trivial GTK4 app…
Ah yes, the "every preference has a cost" philosophy which leads people into deciding things like that everyone on Earth is ok with a One True Colorscheme (Adwaita) and a One True Font (Cantarell). People who suffer…
Of the top of my head, people who are working on Android UX and the GNOME desktop environment.
Unfortunately, spectacle doesn't work on Sway, at least it didn't the last time I tried it a few months ago.
> Their own screenshot tool does not adhere to the same workflow, so maybe they are blind to the issue. Which isn't surprising, in the least. I agree with aidenn0, if you're using a custom screenshot tool, you're not…
> Linux has never been about choice. There was choice because no two people could agree on a set of protocols and standards. And slowly we're converging on a small set of decent (not perfect!) ideas volunteers can focus…
> Yes, you should also remember that when using third-party KDE themes like qt5ct, or hidden KDE settings I don't have much skin in the game to be honest because I've given up on using any GUI apps on Linux wherever…
Interesting, I'll remember this the next time someone tells me to just use GNOME Tweak Tool to use Emacs keybindings or change the theme or keyboard shortcuts because they're unsupported features and maybe disabled…
> there isn't a reality where this does whatever you want I wish something called user choice and configuration options existed in this reality.
> The tweak tool method was also an unsupported third-party thing with most of the same limitations. Interesting, so what was and is the supported first party method to change themes and set keyboard shortcuts and use…