Loss of life and other calamities were not enough to discourage humanity from things like cars, alcohol, nicotine, chainsaws, fast food, etc. etc. I am not sure if there is an example of in-some-ways-useful technology…
The question is: isn't the cat out of the bag already? With what is already in the public domain, and the compute available to motivated, deep-pocketed actors, will they be able to carry on the research without the key…
Best thing I saw on hacker news in a while.
In case of my company, the port was planned for this year, with a 9 month timeline and about 10 FTE team. It ended up being done in 3 months, with 2 engineers. (Sure, plus testers and internal bureaucracies, but that 2…
We did the same with our apps used by a few hundred thousand people a day. We are a slow, boring company, so the port took about 4 weeks of engineering work, and maybe 3 months taking into account release process and…
That it was a dick move, I think there is no doubt about that. OpenAI wanted to scoop Anthropic, and the two guys working on the problem got caught in the crossfire. Both OpenAI and the researchers know if the sessions…
There is nothing even close to a proof. A lot of accusations, a lot of people ready with pitchforks and torches (sadly, also here on HN), but not a lot of facts. Did the researches opt out from data sharing on…
And its reasonable to assume that if they did, in fact, opt out, they'd make it clear. Most people do not understand that the main reason for the subscriptions is to give OpenAI and Anthropic the priceless, unique data…
8x RTX PRO 6000 or 4x Spark? Or 1x M5 Ultra 512GB. The model is theoretically FP8, but really internally its mostly FP4 already, so there won't be a cut-in-half-but-almost-just-as-good quant coming for this one.
Yes, this is getting ridiculous. On both OpenAI and Anthropic. Simple example. I am a CTO, and I want to upgrade our capabilities to perform automated pentesting. We see automated attacks of growing sophistication…
No, I don't think so. I have opted out from data sharing, and when Claude asks me for feedback on a session it then asks if its OK to share that data with Anthropic. I'd assume an opt out is an effective opt out. An opt…
Its not "in the future", its already here, right now. Sensitive IP gets processed on rented or local GPUs running open weight models. Sometimes its required due to data privacy laws, sometimes its because the people…
The paid subscriptions have opt-out for sharing data for training purposes. I think it's on by default.
Yeah, one of the last things anyone will ever read on the computer screen will be sth like "Please help save the coral reefs from extinction" ...thinking... ...thinking some more with xhigh effort... BOOM.
If you use their consumer subs, you get subsidized tokens in exchange for them having full access to your data. Those are the T&Cs. Have something secretive? Get a commercial sub with zdr. (And if memory serves, there…
I think we have less time and the only remaining limitation is the actual cost to run such hacking campaigns. It does not appear expensive, but is not free, and there is a LOT of things to scan for vulnerabilities. The…
To me, someone with interest in amiga games and low level assembly ports, having that write up being done by hand wasn't load bearing. Though I'd admit that using claude for a few hours every day this year…
Its just a tax and an annoyance, and in a very competitive and difficult economy. I am already receiving notices from some EU countries that they will want sit downs on how we use AI, and apparently they have the right…
Nope. The difference here is stamina. Those models never tire while working on an issue, people do. And I doubt finding that bug cost more than $1k or so. Even if $10k. Thats nothing for a large department in a…
The safeguard filter is comically unintelligent. One of my side projects is a strategy game, and in that strategy game one player has a set of jokes, one of them referring to "biological minds". Whenever Fable reads…
The counter argument I'd make is: the current state of surveillance in the EU and elsewhere is companies try to stay on the thin edge between plausibly-aggregate-data-but-not-really -- and PII -- and skirt gdpr. This…
I hail from the post-communist part of the world, and - given the choice - i'd err on the side of unethical builders such as musk, altman et al. Career bureaucrats are introducing a world where merit does not matter;…
No, but there is quite a bit of spectrum between 'never built anything' and 'only built things unethically'. I'd prefer to be governed by people who built something in their lives, and are not career bureaucrats.
Indeed. But if you are a large enough target, you will employ specialized external firms that deal with GDPR, or else.
Enforcement is thin, but every large company operating in the EU pays for legal advice. It's a racket, if you are a large target you will do well to pay for external firms that employ people who personally participated…
Loss of life and other calamities were not enough to discourage humanity from things like cars, alcohol, nicotine, chainsaws, fast food, etc. etc. I am not sure if there is an example of in-some-ways-useful technology…
The question is: isn't the cat out of the bag already? With what is already in the public domain, and the compute available to motivated, deep-pocketed actors, will they be able to carry on the research without the key…
Best thing I saw on hacker news in a while.
In case of my company, the port was planned for this year, with a 9 month timeline and about 10 FTE team. It ended up being done in 3 months, with 2 engineers. (Sure, plus testers and internal bureaucracies, but that 2…
We did the same with our apps used by a few hundred thousand people a day. We are a slow, boring company, so the port took about 4 weeks of engineering work, and maybe 3 months taking into account release process and…
That it was a dick move, I think there is no doubt about that. OpenAI wanted to scoop Anthropic, and the two guys working on the problem got caught in the crossfire. Both OpenAI and the researchers know if the sessions…
There is nothing even close to a proof. A lot of accusations, a lot of people ready with pitchforks and torches (sadly, also here on HN), but not a lot of facts. Did the researches opt out from data sharing on…
And its reasonable to assume that if they did, in fact, opt out, they'd make it clear. Most people do not understand that the main reason for the subscriptions is to give OpenAI and Anthropic the priceless, unique data…
8x RTX PRO 6000 or 4x Spark? Or 1x M5 Ultra 512GB. The model is theoretically FP8, but really internally its mostly FP4 already, so there won't be a cut-in-half-but-almost-just-as-good quant coming for this one.
Yes, this is getting ridiculous. On both OpenAI and Anthropic. Simple example. I am a CTO, and I want to upgrade our capabilities to perform automated pentesting. We see automated attacks of growing sophistication…
No, I don't think so. I have opted out from data sharing, and when Claude asks me for feedback on a session it then asks if its OK to share that data with Anthropic. I'd assume an opt out is an effective opt out. An opt…
Its not "in the future", its already here, right now. Sensitive IP gets processed on rented or local GPUs running open weight models. Sometimes its required due to data privacy laws, sometimes its because the people…
The paid subscriptions have opt-out for sharing data for training purposes. I think it's on by default.
Yeah, one of the last things anyone will ever read on the computer screen will be sth like "Please help save the coral reefs from extinction" ...thinking... ...thinking some more with xhigh effort... BOOM.
If you use their consumer subs, you get subsidized tokens in exchange for them having full access to your data. Those are the T&Cs. Have something secretive? Get a commercial sub with zdr. (And if memory serves, there…
I think we have less time and the only remaining limitation is the actual cost to run such hacking campaigns. It does not appear expensive, but is not free, and there is a LOT of things to scan for vulnerabilities. The…
To me, someone with interest in amiga games and low level assembly ports, having that write up being done by hand wasn't load bearing. Though I'd admit that using claude for a few hours every day this year…
Its just a tax and an annoyance, and in a very competitive and difficult economy. I am already receiving notices from some EU countries that they will want sit downs on how we use AI, and apparently they have the right…
Nope. The difference here is stamina. Those models never tire while working on an issue, people do. And I doubt finding that bug cost more than $1k or so. Even if $10k. Thats nothing for a large department in a…
The safeguard filter is comically unintelligent. One of my side projects is a strategy game, and in that strategy game one player has a set of jokes, one of them referring to "biological minds". Whenever Fable reads…
The counter argument I'd make is: the current state of surveillance in the EU and elsewhere is companies try to stay on the thin edge between plausibly-aggregate-data-but-not-really -- and PII -- and skirt gdpr. This…
I hail from the post-communist part of the world, and - given the choice - i'd err on the side of unethical builders such as musk, altman et al. Career bureaucrats are introducing a world where merit does not matter;…
No, but there is quite a bit of spectrum between 'never built anything' and 'only built things unethically'. I'd prefer to be governed by people who built something in their lives, and are not career bureaucrats.
Indeed. But if you are a large enough target, you will employ specialized external firms that deal with GDPR, or else.
Enforcement is thin, but every large company operating in the EU pays for legal advice. It's a racket, if you are a large target you will do well to pay for external firms that employ people who personally participated…