You only need a small percentage of your companies to succeed, and even then, you only need them to succeed within the constraints of delivering a great exit, not actually standing alone as a viable, well-managed…
Let's say we all listened to your constant posting, and put down the pitchforks. Now what? What would you have us do differently? Should we be quiet? Is there some other avenue of outrage you'd rather we follow? What?
We willingly participated in building a massive anti-consumer corporate surveillance state, called it "analytics", and then are surprised when the government jumps onboard.
Well, now you know better; unless explicitly told 'you can talk about this', don't talk about it.
You can choose to put your data anywhere you want, as long as it's in the cloud, in plaintext and readable to the vendor.
Yes.
Anyone who tries to talk that actually knows anything worth talking about. I assumed that was an obvious implication of the parent poster's statement, but I guess not.
If I read an inflammatory and disturbingly arrogant comment, in which personal opinions are presented as facts, and contrarianism is practiced as an artform, there's a near 100% chance tptacek wrote it.
You seem to need it more. Let me help: "n. an adherent of fascism or similar right-wing authoritarian". Sounds about right. Mussolini said: "Fascism, sitting on the right, could also have sat on the mountain of the…
The EU (and Germany in particular) have data protection laws ... so, yeah: I fear the NSA the most.
The 'back door' system support isn't as complicated as you make it out to be. Centralized administrative access to user data must exist for support, maintenance, and legal purposes, and it will be implemented throughout…
Or their marching orders are to provide live data collection on specific government-identified suspects, rather than live data collection on all users. In which case, they could claim to be lawfully complying with…
It's scary to see how many closet fascists are here on ycombinator.
Most people never review source code, and they certainly don't disassemble and review all the binaries. 'Many eyes' is a security fallacy in cases like this.
When is the last time you heard of the .com infrastructure failing across the board? Just because you're exposed to some reliability risk doesn't mean that you can't expose yourself to more by using a smaller TLD.
I hope you do. If more of you move out here, the price might deflate to something less completely ridiculous.
> You are so incredibly misinformed. An address book cannot simply be mined. Those are extended permissions and access requires explicit opt in from the user at the OS level before the OS exposes any of that…
> I agree this is also a good way to ask for permission. Does Apple do this in iOS? Yep, just once. > I don't agree that "this user pressed this button at this time" quite fits into the same category of privacy…
> What do you suppose the best way to ask for permission is? Please provide actual examples, perhaps from the companies you respect. Literally ask for permission. That's what Apple does, as does almost every other…
Companies I respect (including Apple) ask before gathering usage data; they don't hide it in the ToS that you and I both know nobody will read. Do you object to asking users? If so, why? My guess is that you know the…
Belief that numbers can be interpreted usefully without a rigorous statistical approach is an enormous fallacy; I don't really see why the burden of proof lies on me. Once you do apply rigor, you'll find that what the…
Then ask the user first. I'm sure that if you can elucidate the value of tracking their every interaction, they'll be happy to agree. I'll say no, because don't want my battery wasted, my bandwidth consume, my IP…
When is the last time you read a privacy policy disclosure? A reasonable person would assume that if an application has no functionality that requires sending data over the network, the application won't surreptitiously…
> Aside from using some user resource (like battery or network) how is this different from what website have been doing for a long time? 1) Network requests (and thus communication with a remote machine that can log…
Doesn't make it right. It's also astonishingly user-hostile; wasting the user's resources (bandwidth, battery life, cpu) on things they don't care about, without their permission. On top of that, doing anything…
You only need a small percentage of your companies to succeed, and even then, you only need them to succeed within the constraints of delivering a great exit, not actually standing alone as a viable, well-managed…
Let's say we all listened to your constant posting, and put down the pitchforks. Now what? What would you have us do differently? Should we be quiet? Is there some other avenue of outrage you'd rather we follow? What?
We willingly participated in building a massive anti-consumer corporate surveillance state, called it "analytics", and then are surprised when the government jumps onboard.
Well, now you know better; unless explicitly told 'you can talk about this', don't talk about it.
You can choose to put your data anywhere you want, as long as it's in the cloud, in plaintext and readable to the vendor.
Yes.
Anyone who tries to talk that actually knows anything worth talking about. I assumed that was an obvious implication of the parent poster's statement, but I guess not.
If I read an inflammatory and disturbingly arrogant comment, in which personal opinions are presented as facts, and contrarianism is practiced as an artform, there's a near 100% chance tptacek wrote it.
You seem to need it more. Let me help: "n. an adherent of fascism or similar right-wing authoritarian". Sounds about right. Mussolini said: "Fascism, sitting on the right, could also have sat on the mountain of the…
The EU (and Germany in particular) have data protection laws ... so, yeah: I fear the NSA the most.
The 'back door' system support isn't as complicated as you make it out to be. Centralized administrative access to user data must exist for support, maintenance, and legal purposes, and it will be implemented throughout…
Or their marching orders are to provide live data collection on specific government-identified suspects, rather than live data collection on all users. In which case, they could claim to be lawfully complying with…
It's scary to see how many closet fascists are here on ycombinator.
Most people never review source code, and they certainly don't disassemble and review all the binaries. 'Many eyes' is a security fallacy in cases like this.
When is the last time you heard of the .com infrastructure failing across the board? Just because you're exposed to some reliability risk doesn't mean that you can't expose yourself to more by using a smaller TLD.
I hope you do. If more of you move out here, the price might deflate to something less completely ridiculous.
> You are so incredibly misinformed. An address book cannot simply be mined. Those are extended permissions and access requires explicit opt in from the user at the OS level before the OS exposes any of that…
> I agree this is also a good way to ask for permission. Does Apple do this in iOS? Yep, just once. > I don't agree that "this user pressed this button at this time" quite fits into the same category of privacy…
> What do you suppose the best way to ask for permission is? Please provide actual examples, perhaps from the companies you respect. Literally ask for permission. That's what Apple does, as does almost every other…
Companies I respect (including Apple) ask before gathering usage data; they don't hide it in the ToS that you and I both know nobody will read. Do you object to asking users? If so, why? My guess is that you know the…
Belief that numbers can be interpreted usefully without a rigorous statistical approach is an enormous fallacy; I don't really see why the burden of proof lies on me. Once you do apply rigor, you'll find that what the…
Then ask the user first. I'm sure that if you can elucidate the value of tracking their every interaction, they'll be happy to agree. I'll say no, because don't want my battery wasted, my bandwidth consume, my IP…
When is the last time you read a privacy policy disclosure? A reasonable person would assume that if an application has no functionality that requires sending data over the network, the application won't surreptitiously…
> Aside from using some user resource (like battery or network) how is this different from what website have been doing for a long time? 1) Network requests (and thus communication with a remote machine that can log…
Doesn't make it right. It's also astonishingly user-hostile; wasting the user's resources (bandwidth, battery life, cpu) on things they don't care about, without their permission. On top of that, doing anything…