Thanks for the considered response. > I think this is a "vote with your wallet" sort of situation. I agree a 100%. > is the value proposition good enough that people will put up with it? As of today, the answer is…
Aw buddy, you seem to think I'm trying to hurt you. Furthest, thing from the truth. I think you might have had enough HN for today. Take a nap and then eat a snack if you still feel cranky. The internet and all your…
That's true, I am less familiar with the workings of cloud services than some are (as relevant as that may be in a discussion about a client that users run on their local machines). However, it sounds like you do…
If by a "finer-toothed comb" you mean telemetry then I don't quite see it as comparable to this situation. Telemetry is disclosed in privacy policies, it can usually be opted out of and if not that, then it can be…
There are some commentors in this thread downplaying the severity of a service provider being less than transparent about exactly what their shipped tooling does on customer's machines. That the provider's business…
Copying over my comment from elsewhere in this post: Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access…
Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access patterns without first disclosing is where they shit…
I'm not sure I understand your point. What benefits does treating social/national governence as an industry bring to society? Besides the govt funds it operations through taxation in addition to debt. Your unstated…
It doesn't generate private returns but investing in your worker population definitely nets returns for the public. Also, some might say that upending the de facto copyright regime in favour of AI companies was an…
Right back at ya buddy. Nothing quite like seeing a braggart humbled :)
Well, I for one hope you are horribly wrong. And something about this train of thought aligning with just the general quality of your comments gives me hope.
I see your comments scattered across this thread with most converging on this thesis: "The US govt will regulate away the ability of US corporations and individuals to use unsanctioned AI models." Which is a fair…
On the other I think asking someone for a citation to their rather strong claim isn't incorrect. Digging through unstructured HN comments isn't my idea of a good time and being sent off on a treasure hunt by fellow…
Why is the grievance petty?
Well you seem to clearly be in the know. Care to share?
I'm not sure I fully understand this "society as a dinner crowd" metaphor you're painting here - who is the govt here and what are taxes and most importantly what is the food everyone is eating? How does the wealthy…
I had exactly this happen to me, suffered great monetary losses and had my identity stolen. I've learnt my lesson and have moved on to 1password. At the end of it I couldn't help but reflect on my foolishness. I…
I didn't realise that one could forcibly require a competitor to disclose trade secrets. Now, INAL of course, but I would think this sort of mechanism would be quite gameable from both sides ( i) a wealthy competitor…
I am curious how this will play out legally. Surely UI enough isn't enough to prove that source code was plagiarised? In the event Papermark chooses to sue how will the defendant defend themselves short of presenting…
> There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people. One might bring up the personal consequences bourne by surplus employees who're then laid off during the unavoidable…
I am quite sympathetic to your position. Seeing those who manage to evade accountability consistently paying a heavy personal price was immensely satisfying. But at the same time, I don't think it resulted in any…
Perhaps if the rank and file at a company see personal consequence for those in the topmost posistions (salary deductions, demotions, or firing) in response to such glaring fuck ups that might even help mitigate some of…
In a world which already has the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI, having Chinese labs be a counter balance is decidedly better than the hypothetical where American companies had a global monopoly on LLMs. If your argument…
I think the issue is that information was expensive until the owners of capital gatekept knowledge itself. Now that information is cheap to reproduce they'd rather gatekeep the conduit to that knowledge and devalue…
So what? You're a human (I'm assuming you are) and an LLM is not. The law ought to treat humans differently.
Thanks for the considered response. > I think this is a "vote with your wallet" sort of situation. I agree a 100%. > is the value proposition good enough that people will put up with it? As of today, the answer is…
Aw buddy, you seem to think I'm trying to hurt you. Furthest, thing from the truth. I think you might have had enough HN for today. Take a nap and then eat a snack if you still feel cranky. The internet and all your…
That's true, I am less familiar with the workings of cloud services than some are (as relevant as that may be in a discussion about a client that users run on their local machines). However, it sounds like you do…
If by a "finer-toothed comb" you mean telemetry then I don't quite see it as comparable to this situation. Telemetry is disclosed in privacy policies, it can usually be opted out of and if not that, then it can be…
There are some commentors in this thread downplaying the severity of a service provider being less than transparent about exactly what their shipped tooling does on customer's machines. That the provider's business…
Copying over my comment from elsewhere in this post: Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access…
Anthopic choosing to delay their models' invevitable distillation by competitors is their prerogative. That they choose to implement it by fingerprinting my access patterns without first disclosing is where they shit…
I'm not sure I understand your point. What benefits does treating social/national governence as an industry bring to society? Besides the govt funds it operations through taxation in addition to debt. Your unstated…
It doesn't generate private returns but investing in your worker population definitely nets returns for the public. Also, some might say that upending the de facto copyright regime in favour of AI companies was an…
Right back at ya buddy. Nothing quite like seeing a braggart humbled :)
Well, I for one hope you are horribly wrong. And something about this train of thought aligning with just the general quality of your comments gives me hope.
I see your comments scattered across this thread with most converging on this thesis: "The US govt will regulate away the ability of US corporations and individuals to use unsanctioned AI models." Which is a fair…
On the other I think asking someone for a citation to their rather strong claim isn't incorrect. Digging through unstructured HN comments isn't my idea of a good time and being sent off on a treasure hunt by fellow…
Why is the grievance petty?
Well you seem to clearly be in the know. Care to share?
I'm not sure I fully understand this "society as a dinner crowd" metaphor you're painting here - who is the govt here and what are taxes and most importantly what is the food everyone is eating? How does the wealthy…
I had exactly this happen to me, suffered great monetary losses and had my identity stolen. I've learnt my lesson and have moved on to 1password. At the end of it I couldn't help but reflect on my foolishness. I…
I didn't realise that one could forcibly require a competitor to disclose trade secrets. Now, INAL of course, but I would think this sort of mechanism would be quite gameable from both sides ( i) a wealthy competitor…
I am curious how this will play out legally. Surely UI enough isn't enough to prove that source code was plagiarised? In the event Papermark chooses to sue how will the defendant defend themselves short of presenting…
> There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people. One might bring up the personal consequences bourne by surplus employees who're then laid off during the unavoidable…
I am quite sympathetic to your position. Seeing those who manage to evade accountability consistently paying a heavy personal price was immensely satisfying. But at the same time, I don't think it resulted in any…
Perhaps if the rank and file at a company see personal consequence for those in the topmost posistions (salary deductions, demotions, or firing) in response to such glaring fuck ups that might even help mitigate some of…
In a world which already has the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI, having Chinese labs be a counter balance is decidedly better than the hypothetical where American companies had a global monopoly on LLMs. If your argument…
I think the issue is that information was expensive until the owners of capital gatekept knowledge itself. Now that information is cheap to reproduce they'd rather gatekeep the conduit to that knowledge and devalue…
So what? You're a human (I'm assuming you are) and an LLM is not. The law ought to treat humans differently.