That's what I mean though, I see the theme, but it seems to me to be about the same as trying to fit everything into an HTTP REST API, it all falls apart when something comes along that breaks the abstraction. For…
Ok I see, that helps, thank you. That seems to be mostly similar to evdev on Linux after all, except it requires you to use coroutines instead of having an option for a poll/select type interface. To me the problem with…
How is that conceptually different from IPC? The graphics system appears to somehow pass mouse and keyboard events to the client programs over a channel. At least that part seems similar to an Unix X11 setup where this…
>No more broken than mmap of nfs. Right, I get that's what you meant, it doesn't seem to really change much versus NFS, or DCOM, or whatever. So it's unclear what benefit is being provided by 9p here. Also upon further…
>there's no other option for accessing resources That seems like it would create difficulties in porting software there. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the original plan9 appears to also have no support for shared…
>You no longer have to wonder what happens if you try to create a Unix socket on an NFS file system, and then mmap it How does that work? I don't know the details of any implementation, but 9p the protocol appears not…
I'm guessing these applications do not have any kind of animations or smooth scrolling? That would be a simple test, make your web browser or your image viewer fullscreen in 4K and see if there is lag in the…
Yes -- so if the company falls behind, maybe using some open source code could help you keep up. At least that's what I've felt looking at things on github/gitlab/etc has helped with, if done the right way :)
Then that sounds like you would want it to be an optional plugin, or a compile time flag that could be enabled for customers who want it? Why not do it, if that's what the customers asked for? I get what you are saying…
I am not sure I see what the significant difference is, I've heard of security escapes happening in both Docker and in various hypervisors. Either way there is a risk of some privilege escalation bug that allows access…
I don't see what you mean. Qubes is great, but it is not the same thing as Docker, flatpak, or snap. Are you saying Qubes should somehow be changed so that it works similar to Docker? And if so, why wouldn't you just…
I am not saying it would be easy, it would definitely be work that someone would have to do. I'm more saying that the Godot authors would not try to threaten you or consider you a threat, it's more likely they would…
I still don't see what you mean. It sounds like you are saying the real threat would be if they had no other features that could let them stand out in the market, at which point a competitor would be able to beat them…
Well, of course it would take work to compose them together, but then the pay off is that you might be able to say customers are getting the "best of both worlds." If their customers are also asking them for hosted…
I am not sure why you would feel threatened even if there was overlap. Godot is MIT licensed, so if your customers started asking for features from Godot or for compatibility with Godot, you could just copy the code…
From that perspective, moving to OpenBSD seems mostly pointless as currently the best practice there if file permissions are too strict seems to be "comment out some unveil lines and recompile the program." Not really…
The safest way to do it would be to implement it with seccomp so you unconditionally block those syscalls.
>If you're expecting a blocking system call, and actually get a brand new background thread that's polling, it's quite reasonable to be frustrated. It really isn't if the documentation doesn't outright say that it's…
The systems that use it as a native threading model are obsolete, but there's also this sentence there: >Cooperative multitasking is used with await in languages with a single-threaded event-loop in their runtime, like…
Not really? That's cooperative multitasking and it's used a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_multitasking But regardless, the GP post was not taking about matrix math, it seems it was talking about sending…
In those cases it would be the company that is volunteering, the contribution is still voluntary, and the company is paying someone to volunteer on their behalf.
Why not? The fix there sounds like it's as simple as adding some yield points.
That doesn't seem to be related to async? I don't know the details of rust's async implementation but that sounds like a problem with your application's setup -- you should be able to have a single threaded async…
I am not sure what the problem there is, that is a patch that carries a non open source license, which is allowed by the original ISC license of pgbouncer.
To the contrary, if Amazon is providing a good hiring funnel for the developers/maintainers, regularly contributing patches back upstream, providing funding to the project's non-profit, and generally respecting the…
That's what I mean though, I see the theme, but it seems to me to be about the same as trying to fit everything into an HTTP REST API, it all falls apart when something comes along that breaks the abstraction. For…
Ok I see, that helps, thank you. That seems to be mostly similar to evdev on Linux after all, except it requires you to use coroutines instead of having an option for a poll/select type interface. To me the problem with…
How is that conceptually different from IPC? The graphics system appears to somehow pass mouse and keyboard events to the client programs over a channel. At least that part seems similar to an Unix X11 setup where this…
>No more broken than mmap of nfs. Right, I get that's what you meant, it doesn't seem to really change much versus NFS, or DCOM, or whatever. So it's unclear what benefit is being provided by 9p here. Also upon further…
>there's no other option for accessing resources That seems like it would create difficulties in porting software there. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the original plan9 appears to also have no support for shared…
>You no longer have to wonder what happens if you try to create a Unix socket on an NFS file system, and then mmap it How does that work? I don't know the details of any implementation, but 9p the protocol appears not…
I'm guessing these applications do not have any kind of animations or smooth scrolling? That would be a simple test, make your web browser or your image viewer fullscreen in 4K and see if there is lag in the…
Yes -- so if the company falls behind, maybe using some open source code could help you keep up. At least that's what I've felt looking at things on github/gitlab/etc has helped with, if done the right way :)
Then that sounds like you would want it to be an optional plugin, or a compile time flag that could be enabled for customers who want it? Why not do it, if that's what the customers asked for? I get what you are saying…
I am not sure I see what the significant difference is, I've heard of security escapes happening in both Docker and in various hypervisors. Either way there is a risk of some privilege escalation bug that allows access…
I don't see what you mean. Qubes is great, but it is not the same thing as Docker, flatpak, or snap. Are you saying Qubes should somehow be changed so that it works similar to Docker? And if so, why wouldn't you just…
I am not saying it would be easy, it would definitely be work that someone would have to do. I'm more saying that the Godot authors would not try to threaten you or consider you a threat, it's more likely they would…
I still don't see what you mean. It sounds like you are saying the real threat would be if they had no other features that could let them stand out in the market, at which point a competitor would be able to beat them…
Well, of course it would take work to compose them together, but then the pay off is that you might be able to say customers are getting the "best of both worlds." If their customers are also asking them for hosted…
I am not sure why you would feel threatened even if there was overlap. Godot is MIT licensed, so if your customers started asking for features from Godot or for compatibility with Godot, you could just copy the code…
From that perspective, moving to OpenBSD seems mostly pointless as currently the best practice there if file permissions are too strict seems to be "comment out some unveil lines and recompile the program." Not really…
The safest way to do it would be to implement it with seccomp so you unconditionally block those syscalls.
>If you're expecting a blocking system call, and actually get a brand new background thread that's polling, it's quite reasonable to be frustrated. It really isn't if the documentation doesn't outright say that it's…
The systems that use it as a native threading model are obsolete, but there's also this sentence there: >Cooperative multitasking is used with await in languages with a single-threaded event-loop in their runtime, like…
Not really? That's cooperative multitasking and it's used a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_multitasking But regardless, the GP post was not taking about matrix math, it seems it was talking about sending…
In those cases it would be the company that is volunteering, the contribution is still voluntary, and the company is paying someone to volunteer on their behalf.
Why not? The fix there sounds like it's as simple as adding some yield points.
That doesn't seem to be related to async? I don't know the details of rust's async implementation but that sounds like a problem with your application's setup -- you should be able to have a single threaded async…
I am not sure what the problem there is, that is a patch that carries a non open source license, which is allowed by the original ISC license of pgbouncer.
To the contrary, if Amazon is providing a good hiring funnel for the developers/maintainers, regularly contributing patches back upstream, providing funding to the project's non-profit, and generally respecting the…