I mean in that sense nothing is autonomous right? As a human I need to be taught, fed, socialized, given instructions, etc… Idk man when codex is working 13 hours straight based on a few line prompt, it feels autonomous…
> Sure, there is an autocomplete aspect, but it's not the core nor anywhere near the full story. This can apply equally to LLMs or humans. So what is the utility of the word if it just describes the whole range of…
Models should be accurate. I was saying the mental model should be readjusted in that case because it does not reflect reality. If they don’t care about understanding reality then sure, they can use whatever mental…
I’m not policing anything. I’m claiming that if you truly in your heart believe that frontier LLMs are roughly as sophisticated and impressive as “autocomplete”, then your mental model of reality needs some serious…
> Once you understand the corporate culture of AI "hyperscalers" consists primarily of everyone cooking their brains by locking themselves in the bathroom, holding flashlights under their chins, and saying "Aaaaaaaaaay…
That is all that Ed Zitron deserves lol. Completely unserious person. Really on the same intellectual level as the flat earthers at this point. And at both we may simply point and laugh.
I don’t think the person you replied to was saying anything about what if anything is the subjective experience of being an LLM. They were simply illustrating how the terms used to describe LLMs to make them sound…
You can describe anything in simplistic terms to make it sound simple. Calling frontier LLMs “autocomplete” indicates you are intentionally or unintentionally misunderstanding their capabilities and applications.
ADS (AI derangement syndrome)
Uh, sounds like a prediction to me? It’s not “not a prediction” just because the prediction is not made on a certain type of data.
How can you be so disconnected from reality? The valuations are based on the immense value of LLMs, which exists regardless of how consumers - who are very much not where the revenue is coming from - feel about it. I…
I don’t think you read the article, which documents many cases of him being wrong For example saying in 2024 that LLMs had peaked. That’s not early, that is already, definitively wrong.
Feed the LLM output into a “deterministic” verifier, problem solved. That’s how LLMs verify their new mathematical proofs with lean.
I think the idea that most tech layoffs since 2021 are due to Covid overhiring is lacking a grounding in reality and really any evidence at all.
I suspect there are already plenty of test suites out there for something as universal as a networking stack.
Ok so if it is indeed possible to verify the code after JIT generating it, I still don’t understand why you would assume that in the hypothetical scenario we aren’t doing that verification? You literally said it can’t…
I don’t know why, but it’s certainly possible to imagine JIT-generating code and then verifying it. Which is why I asked why we were assuming the verification wasn’t happening.
Why can’t you JIT- generate the code and then run the verification?
why are you assuming there would be no proper verification in this scenario?
The robot overlords will put the last free man in a pod in 2080 and you guys will still be calling it Covid hiring correction huh
Oh you sweet summer child
Sure they have. Massive layoffs throughout the industry.
> But are LLMs actually getting smarter, or just better at fooling us? They’re getting smarter. Next question.
So is asking a human to write code, if you think about it…
the word “genocide” does not appear in that article. Also, I was aware of it. Why did you think I wasn’t?
I mean in that sense nothing is autonomous right? As a human I need to be taught, fed, socialized, given instructions, etc… Idk man when codex is working 13 hours straight based on a few line prompt, it feels autonomous…
> Sure, there is an autocomplete aspect, but it's not the core nor anywhere near the full story. This can apply equally to LLMs or humans. So what is the utility of the word if it just describes the whole range of…
Models should be accurate. I was saying the mental model should be readjusted in that case because it does not reflect reality. If they don’t care about understanding reality then sure, they can use whatever mental…
I’m not policing anything. I’m claiming that if you truly in your heart believe that frontier LLMs are roughly as sophisticated and impressive as “autocomplete”, then your mental model of reality needs some serious…
> Once you understand the corporate culture of AI "hyperscalers" consists primarily of everyone cooking their brains by locking themselves in the bathroom, holding flashlights under their chins, and saying "Aaaaaaaaaay…
That is all that Ed Zitron deserves lol. Completely unserious person. Really on the same intellectual level as the flat earthers at this point. And at both we may simply point and laugh.
I don’t think the person you replied to was saying anything about what if anything is the subjective experience of being an LLM. They were simply illustrating how the terms used to describe LLMs to make them sound…
You can describe anything in simplistic terms to make it sound simple. Calling frontier LLMs “autocomplete” indicates you are intentionally or unintentionally misunderstanding their capabilities and applications.
ADS (AI derangement syndrome)
Uh, sounds like a prediction to me? It’s not “not a prediction” just because the prediction is not made on a certain type of data.
How can you be so disconnected from reality? The valuations are based on the immense value of LLMs, which exists regardless of how consumers - who are very much not where the revenue is coming from - feel about it. I…
I don’t think you read the article, which documents many cases of him being wrong For example saying in 2024 that LLMs had peaked. That’s not early, that is already, definitively wrong.
Feed the LLM output into a “deterministic” verifier, problem solved. That’s how LLMs verify their new mathematical proofs with lean.
I think the idea that most tech layoffs since 2021 are due to Covid overhiring is lacking a grounding in reality and really any evidence at all.
I suspect there are already plenty of test suites out there for something as universal as a networking stack.
Ok so if it is indeed possible to verify the code after JIT generating it, I still don’t understand why you would assume that in the hypothetical scenario we aren’t doing that verification? You literally said it can’t…
I don’t know why, but it’s certainly possible to imagine JIT-generating code and then verifying it. Which is why I asked why we were assuming the verification wasn’t happening.
Why can’t you JIT- generate the code and then run the verification?
why are you assuming there would be no proper verification in this scenario?
The robot overlords will put the last free man in a pod in 2080 and you guys will still be calling it Covid hiring correction huh
Oh you sweet summer child
Sure they have. Massive layoffs throughout the industry.
> But are LLMs actually getting smarter, or just better at fooling us? They’re getting smarter. Next question.
So is asking a human to write code, if you think about it…
the word “genocide” does not appear in that article. Also, I was aware of it. Why did you think I wasn’t?