> We do know that mathematical frameworks cannot be at the same time totally complete and internally consistent. I take it you're referencing Godel's theorems here, but "consistent" and "complete" have rather technical…
1) [citation needed] 2) even if this is true, at least we're not, I dunno, dying in our 30s and have things like running water?
> The argument that this is a net positive for society could use a little substantiation. The majority of societies that have tried anything different were/are significantly worse for the average person. That seems like…
> Europeans have maybe a few words or even just one word to describe snow Really? In common use: snow, sleet, hail, flurry, frost, hoar, ice, rime, (snow)drift, powder, slush. Less commonly: firn, neve, sastrugi,…
> a literal manifestation of two-ness in front of him Did he though? Are there two gloves, or 100 wool threads, or a 10^23 atoms? Would a different mind see the same thing?
Repasting the quote without addressing the response does not do much to bolster your position - perhaps the opposite!
> we don't particularly use a lot of them and even when we do, the taste is better, but not extremely so Speak for yourself!
>> "how Auckland fixed it" Anyone who lives in Auckland: bahahahahhaha
Technically yes, but in practice I think the victims and survivors of extinction events might beg to differ
>> Lawyers make laws, directly or indirectly Really? In every country I've live in, politicians write laws, judges set precedents, and lawyers only get to make arguments. True, the first two are often & always former…
"LLM and AGI" Feels like the three letters A-G-I are doing a lot of heavy lifting there
Agreed...if you have to introduce an "agent" to make it complete, is it Tetris that's complete or Tetris + an agent?
Imho the fact that a Turing machine is capable of universal computation is surprising/insightful. I'm not sure the fact that other simple systems are then also complete adds much more surprise/insight, even if it's…
It's not uncommon for the T&Cs of tickets and such to require photo ID...in which case?
"just"
Searle's Chinese room is one of those things it's obvious most people talk about without ever having bothered to actually read. Searle does not say computers will never think. Early in the paper he even says - obviously…
Perhaps that's true of some portion of Victorian society, but one sentence can't capture a whole society's understanding. I can think of contradicting evidence, e.g., the novel Fanny Hill (pre Victorian but still…
I think it was Einstein who said "I probably didn't say this"
> We do know that mathematical frameworks cannot be at the same time totally complete and internally consistent. I take it you're referencing Godel's theorems here, but "consistent" and "complete" have rather technical…
1) [citation needed] 2) even if this is true, at least we're not, I dunno, dying in our 30s and have things like running water?
> The argument that this is a net positive for society could use a little substantiation. The majority of societies that have tried anything different were/are significantly worse for the average person. That seems like…
> Europeans have maybe a few words or even just one word to describe snow Really? In common use: snow, sleet, hail, flurry, frost, hoar, ice, rime, (snow)drift, powder, slush. Less commonly: firn, neve, sastrugi,…
> a literal manifestation of two-ness in front of him Did he though? Are there two gloves, or 100 wool threads, or a 10^23 atoms? Would a different mind see the same thing?
Repasting the quote without addressing the response does not do much to bolster your position - perhaps the opposite!
> we don't particularly use a lot of them and even when we do, the taste is better, but not extremely so Speak for yourself!
>> "how Auckland fixed it" Anyone who lives in Auckland: bahahahahhaha
Technically yes, but in practice I think the victims and survivors of extinction events might beg to differ
>> Lawyers make laws, directly or indirectly Really? In every country I've live in, politicians write laws, judges set precedents, and lawyers only get to make arguments. True, the first two are often & always former…
"LLM and AGI" Feels like the three letters A-G-I are doing a lot of heavy lifting there
Agreed...if you have to introduce an "agent" to make it complete, is it Tetris that's complete or Tetris + an agent?
Imho the fact that a Turing machine is capable of universal computation is surprising/insightful. I'm not sure the fact that other simple systems are then also complete adds much more surprise/insight, even if it's…
It's not uncommon for the T&Cs of tickets and such to require photo ID...in which case?
"just"
Searle's Chinese room is one of those things it's obvious most people talk about without ever having bothered to actually read. Searle does not say computers will never think. Early in the paper he even says - obviously…
Perhaps that's true of some portion of Victorian society, but one sentence can't capture a whole society's understanding. I can think of contradicting evidence, e.g., the novel Fanny Hill (pre Victorian but still…
I think it was Einstein who said "I probably didn't say this"