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> In Russia, China or North Korea - nobody believes that. Well of course, they're all actually super miserable and are secretly begging the government of your country or her stronger allies to liberate them and wisely…
> Telegram has also absolutely no filters Your own head should be your filter. This is literally craving for Big Brother. > so it can be filled with lies and propaganda without any response from the platform So does any…
> As did (does?) TOR Yep, TOR is not a solution for hiding from western governments. That's why anything large enough out there gets wrecked as soon as someone makes an appropriate decision.
> E.g. the claim that all ISPs simultaneously voluntarily decided to throttle Youtube to reduce foreign traffic > The information that all ISPs voluntarily decided to throttle Youtube is implausible > Also the…
Government funding? Mandatory phone number exposure? (or did they finally implement usernames?) A joke of a "registration lock pin" instead a proper 2FA to protect against sim-swap?
It literally has government funding.
> Since 2022 it became nothing but a propaganda tool itself. How can it possibly be "a propaganda tool" when it has no feed, no algorithms, no suggestions or recommendations? You only get sources you've willingly…
> And my intuition is that Telegram is going to become banned in Russia soon It had already happened with extreme humiliation of responsible agencies. > as Youtube is being banned now It's not banned, it's throttled…
Spoken like a person who had never ever accessed a single resources in Ru-net, nor interacted with people on their social media platforms.
> and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram That hardly corresponds with Durov's relationships and history with Russian government. > Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares…
US is a no-go for a project like this. No large geopolitical power is.
> well, at least Signal Basically only Signal + Whatsapp. > claiming they don't do anything for privacy. Well, Signal is kind of a scam in that regard.
Large geopolitical powers are all the same. It's only people who live there that are convinced they are doing better than those other guys. Yes, that includes people from Russia, China or the US believing they are the…
> I have yet to see evidence of this being a huge story for those people Can you honestly claim that you keep in touch with those people? I mean, this is an english-speaking us-centric forum. It is somewhat atypical for…
It's been collapsing since digital piracy had first appeared. Then perpetuated by countries being elective at what kind of "intellectual property" rights they choose to respect. "People with money" are a crucial…
There is a whole wide world beyond just obsessing over "billionaires" in a tiny us-centric corner of the world. One could point out China, who totally has so much respect for someone's notion of legality. Or France that…
Is it really? It's all boils down to powerplay, really. And lately lots of powerful entities, from nations to corporations, seem to be poised on disrupting this institution.
Well it's nice to see the whole concept of IP finally collapsing as it should.
> most commonly Says who?
> The only reason that's even considered is because the advertising industry No, it isn't. I've seen a lot of cases when 3rd party cookies were used in complex web based software, especially in enterprise software. This…
> Yet, rich people buy Lamborghinis. Do they really? Seems more like a case for wannabe rich people.
It is misleading to go from patent infringement to casual theft. They're not the same.
Somehow people aren't that eager to make the same argument when accusing China of "IP theft".
They obviously can't just bail and this whole moody exclusivity is what's truly pathetic.
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> In Russia, China or North Korea - nobody believes that. Well of course, they're all actually super miserable and are secretly begging the government of your country or her stronger allies to liberate them and wisely…
> Telegram has also absolutely no filters Your own head should be your filter. This is literally craving for Big Brother. > so it can be filled with lies and propaganda without any response from the platform So does any…
> As did (does?) TOR Yep, TOR is not a solution for hiding from western governments. That's why anything large enough out there gets wrecked as soon as someone makes an appropriate decision.
> E.g. the claim that all ISPs simultaneously voluntarily decided to throttle Youtube to reduce foreign traffic > The information that all ISPs voluntarily decided to throttle Youtube is implausible > Also the…
Government funding? Mandatory phone number exposure? (or did they finally implement usernames?) A joke of a "registration lock pin" instead a proper 2FA to protect against sim-swap?
It literally has government funding.
> Since 2022 it became nothing but a propaganda tool itself. How can it possibly be "a propaganda tool" when it has no feed, no algorithms, no suggestions or recommendations? You only get sources you've willingly…
> And my intuition is that Telegram is going to become banned in Russia soon It had already happened with extreme humiliation of responsible agencies. > as Youtube is being banned now It's not banned, it's throttled…
Spoken like a person who had never ever accessed a single resources in Ru-net, nor interacted with people on their social media platforms.
> and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram That hardly corresponds with Durov's relationships and history with Russian government. > Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares…
US is a no-go for a project like this. No large geopolitical power is.
> well, at least Signal Basically only Signal + Whatsapp. > claiming they don't do anything for privacy. Well, Signal is kind of a scam in that regard.
Large geopolitical powers are all the same. It's only people who live there that are convinced they are doing better than those other guys. Yes, that includes people from Russia, China or the US believing they are the…
> I have yet to see evidence of this being a huge story for those people Can you honestly claim that you keep in touch with those people? I mean, this is an english-speaking us-centric forum. It is somewhat atypical for…
It's been collapsing since digital piracy had first appeared. Then perpetuated by countries being elective at what kind of "intellectual property" rights they choose to respect. "People with money" are a crucial…
There is a whole wide world beyond just obsessing over "billionaires" in a tiny us-centric corner of the world. One could point out China, who totally has so much respect for someone's notion of legality. Or France that…
Is it really? It's all boils down to powerplay, really. And lately lots of powerful entities, from nations to corporations, seem to be poised on disrupting this institution.
Well it's nice to see the whole concept of IP finally collapsing as it should.
> most commonly Says who?
> The only reason that's even considered is because the advertising industry No, it isn't. I've seen a lot of cases when 3rd party cookies were used in complex web based software, especially in enterprise software. This…
> Yet, rich people buy Lamborghinis. Do they really? Seems more like a case for wannabe rich people.
It is misleading to go from patent infringement to casual theft. They're not the same.
Somehow people aren't that eager to make the same argument when accusing China of "IP theft".
They obviously can't just bail and this whole moody exclusivity is what's truly pathetic.