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Your dualism between model and world is nearly Cartesian. The model itself isn't separate from the world but produced materially (by ideology, sociality, naturally, etc.).
An injury to one is an injury to all.
Personal property is distinct from private property.
> violence necessary to steal the means of production You could argue that private property is theft, necessarily enforced by a repressive state, and reappropriation is justice. The general strike is non-violent (until…
If you read the literature around the Bolshevik revolution, Lenin's coup was highly criticized as un-socialist: Luxemburg, Goldman, etc. Simple litmus test for socialism: do workers manage production completely, through…
> Socialists are always concerned with distributing production equally. Not really. Socialism (the project of the labor movement) is concerned with workers being in control of their own work, not vessels for capitalist…
> Are you proposing we seize their land? Not necessarily, but I think the workers should operate their farm democratically. > That’s what the Soviets did The USSR was state capitalist. Workers' councils (or soviets)…
Well actually socialism has been historically concerned with maximizing human creativity. Fourier’s utopian vision was “libidinal” work that aligns passions with labor. Marcuse has a similar view in Eros and…
You guys are both discussing intelligence hierarchies (wtf?) without regard to actual history of popular labor movements being violently squashed.
Your view is called Social Darwinism and it’s really dangerous/dystopian. Also collapses under scrutiny.
Automation makes jobs unnecessary. We should build social infrastructure that allows people to pursue their passions with basic necessities guaranteed. This has been possible for awhile now.
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Socialism is seizing the workplace from the capitalist.
Why don't workers unite to democratically manage production? The police, propaganda, wage slavery.
It's true that, in those groups, a shared ethnic identity enables economic cooperation. But the lack of solidarity you observe is the result of a regime of coercion. The official policy: leave your neighborhood, family,…
Your "holes" example is a distortion (simplification and misinterpretation) of Marx's theory.
It’s actually off putting if you check out a potential employer’s GitHub and it’s filled with obsessive committers, obviously working late hours, weekends, holidays, etc.
I assure you that your life in tech, waging for a boss, is a waste of time.
You’re confusing empiricism with evolutionary epistemology. Evolutionary epistemology isn’t exclusively empirical.
I don’t think you understand what philosophy is.
The point is that naive (vulgar) empiricism is untenable because to perform and evaluate scientific practices you inevitably invoke premises that are rational or pragmatic, not empirical.
> experiment is the ultimate arbiter of truth Can you help me design experiments to prove the following? * Simpler theories, with equal explanatory and predictive power, are preferable * I'm not dreaming and there's no…
> Empiricism can be justified empirically It's so obvious you haven't engaged with the subject matter.
> few would expect food being distributed for free uhh
Great
Your dualism between model and world is nearly Cartesian. The model itself isn't separate from the world but produced materially (by ideology, sociality, naturally, etc.).
An injury to one is an injury to all.
Personal property is distinct from private property.
> violence necessary to steal the means of production You could argue that private property is theft, necessarily enforced by a repressive state, and reappropriation is justice. The general strike is non-violent (until…
If you read the literature around the Bolshevik revolution, Lenin's coup was highly criticized as un-socialist: Luxemburg, Goldman, etc. Simple litmus test for socialism: do workers manage production completely, through…
> Socialists are always concerned with distributing production equally. Not really. Socialism (the project of the labor movement) is concerned with workers being in control of their own work, not vessels for capitalist…
> Are you proposing we seize their land? Not necessarily, but I think the workers should operate their farm democratically. > That’s what the Soviets did The USSR was state capitalist. Workers' councils (or soviets)…
Well actually socialism has been historically concerned with maximizing human creativity. Fourier’s utopian vision was “libidinal” work that aligns passions with labor. Marcuse has a similar view in Eros and…
You guys are both discussing intelligence hierarchies (wtf?) without regard to actual history of popular labor movements being violently squashed.
Your view is called Social Darwinism and it’s really dangerous/dystopian. Also collapses under scrutiny.
Automation makes jobs unnecessary. We should build social infrastructure that allows people to pursue their passions with basic necessities guaranteed. This has been possible for awhile now.
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Socialism is seizing the workplace from the capitalist.
Why don't workers unite to democratically manage production? The police, propaganda, wage slavery.
It's true that, in those groups, a shared ethnic identity enables economic cooperation. But the lack of solidarity you observe is the result of a regime of coercion. The official policy: leave your neighborhood, family,…
Your "holes" example is a distortion (simplification and misinterpretation) of Marx's theory.
It’s actually off putting if you check out a potential employer’s GitHub and it’s filled with obsessive committers, obviously working late hours, weekends, holidays, etc.
I assure you that your life in tech, waging for a boss, is a waste of time.
You’re confusing empiricism with evolutionary epistemology. Evolutionary epistemology isn’t exclusively empirical.
I don’t think you understand what philosophy is.
The point is that naive (vulgar) empiricism is untenable because to perform and evaluate scientific practices you inevitably invoke premises that are rational or pragmatic, not empirical.
> experiment is the ultimate arbiter of truth Can you help me design experiments to prove the following? * Simpler theories, with equal explanatory and predictive power, are preferable * I'm not dreaming and there's no…
> Empiricism can be justified empirically It's so obvious you haven't engaged with the subject matter.
> few would expect food being distributed for free uhh