lol what a bad analogy. Why should anyone care how much effort a result takes to achieve? If anything our entire world functions because we reduce that effort as much as possible. I don't judge you for not growing your…
Art doesn't move cargo faster, or save me time analyzing a dataset. You can make the argument that "high" math has no function value which is fair. But I would not agree.
Art is entertainment. It has no functional value. The simple fact that you're comparing art to mathematics is making my point for me.
They can get with the program or be the equivalent of a genius SWE writing assembly on punchcards in 2026. The only thing I read from this is their ego being bruised by a machine. If these people cared more about…
Or another way. I enjoy seeing the fastest human on earth run. But I'm still getting in my car to go to the shop.
I actually love the analogy that mathematicians will be the equivalent of olympic athletes. Nobody needs to throw a rock far, or run fast, nobody gets any value except entertainment. I think your own analogy is actually…
Watching people who have built their entire identity around being untouchably smart suddenly be confronted with the future that children will be able to solve the equivalent of millenium prize level math in an afternoon…
Your doing that sampling/promotion automatically? I considered an automatic promotion path but decided against it I want to actually review the data myself first. What's your model churn rate like? I was worried about…
Same experience. I migrated over and am happy but that intro was brutal. My basics are I have a test suite that: 1. Finds newest models of my versions 2. Inferences every single model and a few providers for each with a…
Thought expirement. If astra max effort made one function at a time via a heavy description by you. Would it ever produce slop? Fresh context, 1000 lines of style and content guide you personally wrote. Per function no…
It's actually pretty cool of these old stories how well that maps to a dangerous tyrant. The roman empire perfectly matched that and most powerful men seem to go that path. It would also be kinda easy to argue many…
Fair take. So I totally agree if AI also cannot do the second part better than a person. Honestly though, I wouldn't want to take that bet. I never thought that the first thing AI would become super human AGI like is…
In that case isn't it actually more valuable to have an AI do this? It works faster and solves more math. The random engineer looking at a funny problem 10 years later now has the literal author of the math to talk to…
So solving and discovering math is or is not the core value a mathematician provides? If AI can perfectly replicate their work but faster and better then what? SWE have nobody crying for them as they've been massively…
Fun suggestion, thanks!
It's a reasonable take. I think there's an important part which is that the nature of the beast implies there's effectively zero way to do that. They have no idea what context, triggering this pathway, was from this…
So...why can't an AI do the exact same thing? Make AI so it understands math better for future math to understand more math. Unless your argument is that mathematicians are effectively useless? I am assuming that's not…
Ok so if no plagarism has occured here in any sense then there's no discussion here? I agree though if they did plagarism it's really really bad for OpenAI. They would instantly have evaporated all remaining good will…
So what happens to this world view when AI not only clears the forest of problems we couldn't solve but also in the future discovers more forest with trees bigger than anything we've ever seen before? Not sure what the…
AI didn't "take" anything. An openai researcher did? The solution is also different to theirs? Literally no evidence of plagarism?
I mean, hasn't it always been this way? If something valuable is within reach and you disclose it, someone else might reach for it? Just because the length of the arm is longer with an AI org doesn't mean it's somehow…
100% not deterministic at the scale they run.
Sure? I mean the internet is just a bunch of wires and some networking code not magic but at the same completely life alteringly magical. My logic is that you personally could never have accomplished this feat with all…
Memory isolation having one tab or account open on your bank and another on this page does not mean it could leak across the sandbox and steal bank account details but anything inside of your general page content can be…
Been running near identical tests for years now. Latest models are the only ones I don't throw away the results/code. Which is impressive, salvagable/usable is a giant step up.
lol what a bad analogy. Why should anyone care how much effort a result takes to achieve? If anything our entire world functions because we reduce that effort as much as possible. I don't judge you for not growing your…
Art doesn't move cargo faster, or save me time analyzing a dataset. You can make the argument that "high" math has no function value which is fair. But I would not agree.
Art is entertainment. It has no functional value. The simple fact that you're comparing art to mathematics is making my point for me.
They can get with the program or be the equivalent of a genius SWE writing assembly on punchcards in 2026. The only thing I read from this is their ego being bruised by a machine. If these people cared more about…
Or another way. I enjoy seeing the fastest human on earth run. But I'm still getting in my car to go to the shop.
I actually love the analogy that mathematicians will be the equivalent of olympic athletes. Nobody needs to throw a rock far, or run fast, nobody gets any value except entertainment. I think your own analogy is actually…
Watching people who have built their entire identity around being untouchably smart suddenly be confronted with the future that children will be able to solve the equivalent of millenium prize level math in an afternoon…
Your doing that sampling/promotion automatically? I considered an automatic promotion path but decided against it I want to actually review the data myself first. What's your model churn rate like? I was worried about…
Same experience. I migrated over and am happy but that intro was brutal. My basics are I have a test suite that: 1. Finds newest models of my versions 2. Inferences every single model and a few providers for each with a…
Thought expirement. If astra max effort made one function at a time via a heavy description by you. Would it ever produce slop? Fresh context, 1000 lines of style and content guide you personally wrote. Per function no…
It's actually pretty cool of these old stories how well that maps to a dangerous tyrant. The roman empire perfectly matched that and most powerful men seem to go that path. It would also be kinda easy to argue many…
Fair take. So I totally agree if AI also cannot do the second part better than a person. Honestly though, I wouldn't want to take that bet. I never thought that the first thing AI would become super human AGI like is…
In that case isn't it actually more valuable to have an AI do this? It works faster and solves more math. The random engineer looking at a funny problem 10 years later now has the literal author of the math to talk to…
So solving and discovering math is or is not the core value a mathematician provides? If AI can perfectly replicate their work but faster and better then what? SWE have nobody crying for them as they've been massively…
Fun suggestion, thanks!
It's a reasonable take. I think there's an important part which is that the nature of the beast implies there's effectively zero way to do that. They have no idea what context, triggering this pathway, was from this…
So...why can't an AI do the exact same thing? Make AI so it understands math better for future math to understand more math. Unless your argument is that mathematicians are effectively useless? I am assuming that's not…
Ok so if no plagarism has occured here in any sense then there's no discussion here? I agree though if they did plagarism it's really really bad for OpenAI. They would instantly have evaporated all remaining good will…
So what happens to this world view when AI not only clears the forest of problems we couldn't solve but also in the future discovers more forest with trees bigger than anything we've ever seen before? Not sure what the…
AI didn't "take" anything. An openai researcher did? The solution is also different to theirs? Literally no evidence of plagarism?
I mean, hasn't it always been this way? If something valuable is within reach and you disclose it, someone else might reach for it? Just because the length of the arm is longer with an AI org doesn't mean it's somehow…
100% not deterministic at the scale they run.
Sure? I mean the internet is just a bunch of wires and some networking code not magic but at the same completely life alteringly magical. My logic is that you personally could never have accomplished this feat with all…
Memory isolation having one tab or account open on your bank and another on this page does not mean it could leak across the sandbox and steal bank account details but anything inside of your general page content can be…
Been running near identical tests for years now. Latest models are the only ones I don't throw away the results/code. Which is impressive, salvagable/usable is a giant step up.