This: http://moc.daper.net/ Is a great console music player.
I'd do it.
The minute you have to start working with designers HAML is a no-go.
It's the old worse is better thing all over again: http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html Maybe all the "better" languages are a case of misdirected optimization, where the critical resource is developer time?
Phase 4, "Winter": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_West#Phases_of_r...
The fact that there is a full-stack version available doesn't mitigate the fact that the multitudes of custom stacks out there are going to mean two bad things: 1. The default full stack will be a lot less thoroughly…
I just don't get the appeal of Merb at all. Rails was such a relief after a few years of roll-your-own--web-stack Java. Why would I want to go back to dealing with all the little incompatibilities and bugs that creep in…
Apple makes some great stuff but I've been feeling more and more lately that I'd rather spend my time and money supporting open standards.
I haven't found this to be the case at all. Who besides Zed is behaving this way?
I don't see how that follows at all. If the biggest issues with Ruby are performance and memory management how does changing the language spec help fix that? If anything a stable language spec should help nail down the…
It would be nice to see some progress made on the interpreter but I think it's to Ruby's credit that the language design hasn't changed that much in the last several years. A lot of the activity on the Python side has…
I wonder if it's occurred to Zed that his attitude might have had something to do with his difficulty finding a job.
We build a small, versioned depot of ruby + rails and other gems. Running this with Apache/mod_fcgid works really well and is very stable.
You're right that Rails expects you to take the whole stack and doesn't offer you choice. DHH and I consider that to be a huge advantage but it also means that Rails won't be a good fit for every project. That said, I…
Hopefully it won't be a war but it certainly is Merb versus Rails, at least if you're deciding what framework to build your website with.
I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on this a bit. I've build quite a few Rails apps so far and haven't found that to be the case myself.
You're never going to love every decision made by the designers of any platform. The thing is, you're likely to make just as many missteps on your own. Every once in a while it's worth it to start with a clean slate but…
I don't get it. One of the best things about Rails is that I don't have to pick and choose my components. I use what everybody else is using and I know that means it's likely to work and be reasonably well documented.…
Let's save the political stuff for reddit.
Yeah. The irony is that server-side frameworks really started to get good just before most of their functionality migrated back to the client.
Sounds like Scheme and Common Lisp all over again. Every popular framework eventually gets complicated and tempts us to do a "clean slate" rewrite. Rails succeeded because it's opinionated. I don't want to choose from…
Nice to see Wired dialing back up the naive techno-triumphalism. How long until the next bubble bursts?
Change the dates on this thread from 2008 to anything from 2000-2007 and you can find a thousand other threads just like it on c.l.l. The short answer - don't hold your breath.
This: http://moc.daper.net/ Is a great console music player.
I'd do it.
The minute you have to start working with designers HAML is a no-go.
It's the old worse is better thing all over again: http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html Maybe all the "better" languages are a case of misdirected optimization, where the critical resource is developer time?
Phase 4, "Winter": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_West#Phases_of_r...
The fact that there is a full-stack version available doesn't mitigate the fact that the multitudes of custom stacks out there are going to mean two bad things: 1. The default full stack will be a lot less thoroughly…
I just don't get the appeal of Merb at all. Rails was such a relief after a few years of roll-your-own--web-stack Java. Why would I want to go back to dealing with all the little incompatibilities and bugs that creep in…
Apple makes some great stuff but I've been feeling more and more lately that I'd rather spend my time and money supporting open standards.
I haven't found this to be the case at all. Who besides Zed is behaving this way?
I don't see how that follows at all. If the biggest issues with Ruby are performance and memory management how does changing the language spec help fix that? If anything a stable language spec should help nail down the…
It would be nice to see some progress made on the interpreter but I think it's to Ruby's credit that the language design hasn't changed that much in the last several years. A lot of the activity on the Python side has…
I wonder if it's occurred to Zed that his attitude might have had something to do with his difficulty finding a job.
We build a small, versioned depot of ruby + rails and other gems. Running this with Apache/mod_fcgid works really well and is very stable.
You're right that Rails expects you to take the whole stack and doesn't offer you choice. DHH and I consider that to be a huge advantage but it also means that Rails won't be a good fit for every project. That said, I…
Hopefully it won't be a war but it certainly is Merb versus Rails, at least if you're deciding what framework to build your website with.
I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on this a bit. I've build quite a few Rails apps so far and haven't found that to be the case myself.
You're never going to love every decision made by the designers of any platform. The thing is, you're likely to make just as many missteps on your own. Every once in a while it's worth it to start with a clean slate but…
I don't get it. One of the best things about Rails is that I don't have to pick and choose my components. I use what everybody else is using and I know that means it's likely to work and be reasonably well documented.…
Let's save the political stuff for reddit.
Yeah. The irony is that server-side frameworks really started to get good just before most of their functionality migrated back to the client.
Sounds like Scheme and Common Lisp all over again. Every popular framework eventually gets complicated and tempts us to do a "clean slate" rewrite. Rails succeeded because it's opinionated. I don't want to choose from…
Nice to see Wired dialing back up the naive techno-triumphalism. How long until the next bubble bursts?
Change the dates on this thread from 2008 to anything from 2000-2007 and you can find a thousand other threads just like it on c.l.l. The short answer - don't hold your breath.