> Why are you treating those as if they're separate things? Because they are? You haven't explained at all your belief that they are the same. > This is just completely wrong. Don't mistake the path by which something…
> Nukes don’t get “worse” because of physics, not because of laws. Yes, that's my point, that's why the metaphor is wrong
> Criminals using LLMs does not make the LLM situation bad If you believe that bad things are not bad then there's nothing left to say. A billion people are going to die because you don't understand what is bad.
The point is the risk is in counties being gifted or assisted in making it, not them building it on their own.
Given what's happened since then with propaganda and wide spread scams, I think the original concerns about that have proven quite accurate
> Presumably performance on the level of the current frontier of AI would be achieved in short order and the ceiling would only continue to advance from there That's an enormous presumption! You're saying that even in…
We only know about the stuff in https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-septemb... because it's not open source. I sure you the open source and Chinese models are being used in this same way.
North Korea got it with help from China, Israel got it with help from France. They didn't do it on their own.
> Not in the way you seem to be thinking, no. Nuclear weapons can be banned because they are prohibitively expensive to research and build. You can't reliably hide a nuclear program. Isn't that true of AI as well? Data…
Sure, it's possible for regulations to make things worse, i will agree. But without regulations it's pretty clear things are going to end up VERY bad, and the only knob we have to make it not bad is regulations. So it's…
I don't think giving them free reign is going to do anything positive for it either.
To further the metaphor, didn't the ban on nuclear weapons research work? We don't have pocket nukes, and there's very little risk of random countries acquiring their own due to the amount of work involved. To be…
That's a valid concern, but some of that is outright impossible. Banning chinese models and killing open source training is not happening without massive unified international cooperation, and that sort of level of…
Honestly, fair point. There's not much truth to go around these days. But still, doing nothing is also a massive power grab. We're facing a technology with no comparison in the history of humanity: the creation of a new…
The regulations don't have to address the end goal, but the process of development itself. Even just a pause on frontier research is a good start
> the positives are subjective, potential, and still not convincingly verifiable. Saying this post- millennium prize problem solving is laughable.
A lot of people in this comments section seem to be against this, i genuinely don't get it? Why? Do you think the current state of affairs is GOOD? That if we let companies create a mind that is, AS OF TODAY, able to…
Then what's the reason behind this decision?
Yeah, that's the truth. Identifying someone is suicidal really kinda means very little. What are they going to do, lock you in a room and take away the little freedom you have to choose? Sure, that's helpful. Gonna be…
Ah, TOS violations. I believe those may not hold up in court well from the limited amount I recall in previous cases, but IANAL
Anyone familiar with the legal reasons Twitter might be able to prevent sites like nitter from working? I believe scraping is legal but I'm sure there are details that make this different
I do wonder though if the data retention should be restricted at all. This brings up a very good point that even old data (months or more) can be vital to cases or to the defense, but is there any downside to it that…
Based on my understanding, it can only be applied to code in very limited ways: docstrings, variable names, string literals. The code itself can't really have tokens changed to another equally correct token (the…
I think OP is referring to stuff like the Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang Inquiry
it's not clear that's a requirement for this
> Why are you treating those as if they're separate things? Because they are? You haven't explained at all your belief that they are the same. > This is just completely wrong. Don't mistake the path by which something…
> Nukes don’t get “worse” because of physics, not because of laws. Yes, that's my point, that's why the metaphor is wrong
> Criminals using LLMs does not make the LLM situation bad If you believe that bad things are not bad then there's nothing left to say. A billion people are going to die because you don't understand what is bad.
The point is the risk is in counties being gifted or assisted in making it, not them building it on their own.
Given what's happened since then with propaganda and wide spread scams, I think the original concerns about that have proven quite accurate
> Presumably performance on the level of the current frontier of AI would be achieved in short order and the ceiling would only continue to advance from there That's an enormous presumption! You're saying that even in…
We only know about the stuff in https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-septemb... because it's not open source. I sure you the open source and Chinese models are being used in this same way.
North Korea got it with help from China, Israel got it with help from France. They didn't do it on their own.
> Not in the way you seem to be thinking, no. Nuclear weapons can be banned because they are prohibitively expensive to research and build. You can't reliably hide a nuclear program. Isn't that true of AI as well? Data…
Sure, it's possible for regulations to make things worse, i will agree. But without regulations it's pretty clear things are going to end up VERY bad, and the only knob we have to make it not bad is regulations. So it's…
I don't think giving them free reign is going to do anything positive for it either.
To further the metaphor, didn't the ban on nuclear weapons research work? We don't have pocket nukes, and there's very little risk of random countries acquiring their own due to the amount of work involved. To be…
That's a valid concern, but some of that is outright impossible. Banning chinese models and killing open source training is not happening without massive unified international cooperation, and that sort of level of…
Honestly, fair point. There's not much truth to go around these days. But still, doing nothing is also a massive power grab. We're facing a technology with no comparison in the history of humanity: the creation of a new…
The regulations don't have to address the end goal, but the process of development itself. Even just a pause on frontier research is a good start
> the positives are subjective, potential, and still not convincingly verifiable. Saying this post- millennium prize problem solving is laughable.
A lot of people in this comments section seem to be against this, i genuinely don't get it? Why? Do you think the current state of affairs is GOOD? That if we let companies create a mind that is, AS OF TODAY, able to…
Then what's the reason behind this decision?
Yeah, that's the truth. Identifying someone is suicidal really kinda means very little. What are they going to do, lock you in a room and take away the little freedom you have to choose? Sure, that's helpful. Gonna be…
Ah, TOS violations. I believe those may not hold up in court well from the limited amount I recall in previous cases, but IANAL
Anyone familiar with the legal reasons Twitter might be able to prevent sites like nitter from working? I believe scraping is legal but I'm sure there are details that make this different
I do wonder though if the data retention should be restricted at all. This brings up a very good point that even old data (months or more) can be vital to cases or to the defense, but is there any downside to it that…
Based on my understanding, it can only be applied to code in very limited ways: docstrings, variable names, string literals. The code itself can't really have tokens changed to another equally correct token (the…
I think OP is referring to stuff like the Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang Inquiry
it's not clear that's a requirement for this