> Cows & Pigs don't deserve to be murdered for their meat, but we do it, to live. We dont _need_ to eat meat. We _want_ to eat meat. We want it so much that we'll kill them to get it. But for some psycho-social reason…
> That doesn't benefit all of society now does it? How does then involuntary wealth transfer from the rich to the poor benefit _all_ of society, including the rich? > Attacking a neighbouring country won't benefit…
What makes you think I will try to constructively respond to your question if you dont try to constructively respond to mine?
> Does having rich people benefit all of society? Who cares? > If it doesn't then we should tax the rich So if society is comprised of 10 people, and you devour one of them and redistribute to the other 9, thats OK…
Whatever I'm advocating, youre advocating flat out mugging, and to conceal that, youre giving it other names. Muging, aka forcible redistribution of other peoples wealth is called "communism", so stop pretending youre…
> For example, with basic income Oh a UBI communist again. Sooner or later every problem discussed leads to someone suggesting the good ole "tax the rich". > paying people to stay home to care for their kids. Why should…
> What's wrong with Common Lisp? Nothing. But Schemers just passionately hate it since the 70s because it doesnt enforce their religious dogmas like recursion, continuations, unusable macros, and other similarly silly…
> And Michael Brown was probably a thug, so deserved to die? He didnt "deserve" to die, but the fact that he violently robbed a store minutes before he died, maybe, _only maybe_, contributed to his violent death, dont…
> Wow, trying to redefine racial diversity as racism. If a diversity quota decides about you gettnig a job or not getting a job, then it is indistinguishable from a race quota, i.e. racism.
> These experiences will have shaped the two men differently. You are implying that those negative experiences are a product of racism and not of simple statistics. Maybe, only maybe, people _dont have_ as many problems…
> what "diversity" he is looking for at Twitter. Because being explicit about how he wants race quotas might make him look racist, which would make it harder for him to use accusations of racism as a tool. The quest for…
> Xenophobic insults are not allowed on HN This sentence was neither xenophobic nor an insult. > If you do it again we will ban your account. Stop threatening people for innocuous statements.
They didnt have to, neither Stroustrup nor Hejlsberg called their languages "a C".
> You might do more than just disagree. He didnt do more than just claim it. > You might supply some reasons why you think Scheme isn't a Lisp. So you want a negative proof without providing a positive proof first? >…
> Scheme is a Lisp. No, it isn't. > I've never met anyone who disagrees. Now you have.
> Racket, arguably the most popular Scheme implementation Umm, NO. Racket isnt a "Scheme implementation". Racket was a Scheme as long as they called themselves MzScheme. Then they decided that they changed too much that…
> £20k/year doesn't actually strike me as that much. You should learn about investing. If he invested the initial amount without spending it, a moderate dividend yield of 3% would make him $15000 a year. Add 25 years of…
> unless if you start paying. Which is unfortunate. So you want something for nothing. Why exactly would Ubuntu (or anybody else) want you as an user?
Considering that the push for Guile is not coming from the Emacs community, but from the Guile community in order to promote Guile, I guess that Emacs will be forked as soon as they deprecate Elisp and start forcing…
Please spread your religious propaganda elsewhere. HN is a place to discuss, not to proselytize. Thanks.
> I wonder why nobody has forked Wikipedia yet. Wikipedia _was_ forked, several times. The reason you dont seem to know about them are: 1. The added utility was not sufficient to make an impact strong enough to pull…
Or dont talk about these prehistoric details _at all_. Dont talk about the 80s. Dont talk about 27 different and incompatible implementations. Dont talk about lambda calculus or McCarthy. Dont talk about 1001 different…
> left anarchism If it is not statist, what actually makes it "left"? > anarcho-communism Same question, how could a stateless communism possibly work?
Even if they all rode rusty bicycles, basic logic implies that they won't/can't bite the hand that feeds them simply because obviously nobody else would voluntarily feed them and they're (obviously) intelligent enough…
> Also state == leftism? Precisely. > What about fascist and quasi-fascist states? Fascism, communism, nazism, socialism, etc, are subsets of leftism/statism.
> Cows & Pigs don't deserve to be murdered for their meat, but we do it, to live. We dont _need_ to eat meat. We _want_ to eat meat. We want it so much that we'll kill them to get it. But for some psycho-social reason…
> That doesn't benefit all of society now does it? How does then involuntary wealth transfer from the rich to the poor benefit _all_ of society, including the rich? > Attacking a neighbouring country won't benefit…
What makes you think I will try to constructively respond to your question if you dont try to constructively respond to mine?
> Does having rich people benefit all of society? Who cares? > If it doesn't then we should tax the rich So if society is comprised of 10 people, and you devour one of them and redistribute to the other 9, thats OK…
Whatever I'm advocating, youre advocating flat out mugging, and to conceal that, youre giving it other names. Muging, aka forcible redistribution of other peoples wealth is called "communism", so stop pretending youre…
> For example, with basic income Oh a UBI communist again. Sooner or later every problem discussed leads to someone suggesting the good ole "tax the rich". > paying people to stay home to care for their kids. Why should…
> What's wrong with Common Lisp? Nothing. But Schemers just passionately hate it since the 70s because it doesnt enforce their religious dogmas like recursion, continuations, unusable macros, and other similarly silly…
> And Michael Brown was probably a thug, so deserved to die? He didnt "deserve" to die, but the fact that he violently robbed a store minutes before he died, maybe, _only maybe_, contributed to his violent death, dont…
> Wow, trying to redefine racial diversity as racism. If a diversity quota decides about you gettnig a job or not getting a job, then it is indistinguishable from a race quota, i.e. racism.
> These experiences will have shaped the two men differently. You are implying that those negative experiences are a product of racism and not of simple statistics. Maybe, only maybe, people _dont have_ as many problems…
> what "diversity" he is looking for at Twitter. Because being explicit about how he wants race quotas might make him look racist, which would make it harder for him to use accusations of racism as a tool. The quest for…
> Xenophobic insults are not allowed on HN This sentence was neither xenophobic nor an insult. > If you do it again we will ban your account. Stop threatening people for innocuous statements.
They didnt have to, neither Stroustrup nor Hejlsberg called their languages "a C".
> You might do more than just disagree. He didnt do more than just claim it. > You might supply some reasons why you think Scheme isn't a Lisp. So you want a negative proof without providing a positive proof first? >…
> Scheme is a Lisp. No, it isn't. > I've never met anyone who disagrees. Now you have.
> Racket, arguably the most popular Scheme implementation Umm, NO. Racket isnt a "Scheme implementation". Racket was a Scheme as long as they called themselves MzScheme. Then they decided that they changed too much that…
> £20k/year doesn't actually strike me as that much. You should learn about investing. If he invested the initial amount without spending it, a moderate dividend yield of 3% would make him $15000 a year. Add 25 years of…
> unless if you start paying. Which is unfortunate. So you want something for nothing. Why exactly would Ubuntu (or anybody else) want you as an user?
Considering that the push for Guile is not coming from the Emacs community, but from the Guile community in order to promote Guile, I guess that Emacs will be forked as soon as they deprecate Elisp and start forcing…
Please spread your religious propaganda elsewhere. HN is a place to discuss, not to proselytize. Thanks.
> I wonder why nobody has forked Wikipedia yet. Wikipedia _was_ forked, several times. The reason you dont seem to know about them are: 1. The added utility was not sufficient to make an impact strong enough to pull…
Or dont talk about these prehistoric details _at all_. Dont talk about the 80s. Dont talk about 27 different and incompatible implementations. Dont talk about lambda calculus or McCarthy. Dont talk about 1001 different…
> left anarchism If it is not statist, what actually makes it "left"? > anarcho-communism Same question, how could a stateless communism possibly work?
Even if they all rode rusty bicycles, basic logic implies that they won't/can't bite the hand that feeds them simply because obviously nobody else would voluntarily feed them and they're (obviously) intelligent enough…
> Also state == leftism? Precisely. > What about fascist and quasi-fascist states? Fascism, communism, nazism, socialism, etc, are subsets of leftism/statism.