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the global burn rate was 4-6 weeks for a /8, iirc but there are waitlists to fulfill, so...you're probably still right. (tl;dr: "repatriate the poorly allocated legacy ip space" is a losing proposition)
> Edit regarding World IPv6 day. I must be thinking of June 6, 2012: "This time, it's for real." world ipv6 day (24 hours) was in 2011. world ipv6 launch (turn it on & leave it on) was in 2012. (ppl mix the two up all…
> I could see doing IPv6+IPv4 in a corporation and terminate everything on load balancers, allowing anything behind the LB to be any combination of IPv4/IPv6. But IPv6 only? I don't see any big companies doing that in…
derp yes https://whynoipv6.com/
this sounds like a valid argument for deploying ipv6 wherever you can, tbqh cgnat is only going to get MORE common, globally
> Part of the motivation for this was to use (mostly) unique MAC addresses (48 bits) as your identifier and that fits in 64 bits. Of course this became a massive PII leak and a tracker's dream so it never happened but…
ipv6-only web sites are borderline nonexistant, because no one who needs to maintain a profit dares to cut off a revenue stream from legacy ip only users (yet). the most exhaustive list thus far is…
okay - how about a few other angles? https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/ - per-country, and within a country, per-asn eyeball statistics, collected from online ads - not just mobile!…
by what definition would you call ipv6 "mostly a failure"? 30-40% global eyeball network (to the end user) adoption after ~10 years of active deployment, against very vocal opposition seems commendable enough to me.
it's the default behaviour by most cpe, correct any exceptions to this should be roasted (my twitter dm's are open)
those of us who want to have the same port on different computers available to the internet might see that as a bad thing
> It was relevant then -and it is relevant now- because there are good lessons in how to migrate from thing A to thing B, even if some of the then-missing necessary bits are in place now. it's irrelevant now because…
is the 22+% ipv6 adoption in .no all mobile? (honest question - i don't know) https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NO
& for "at scale" - how about 100,000,000 users? https://twitter.com/iPv4depletion/status/1584376525427978240
is "not supporting IPv6 at all" a data-backed statement? https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/ fwiw
47.57% of observed requests coming out of as14593 is ipv6, as of two days ago: https://twitter.com/noIPv6/status/1600527249282895879 & to be clear, that is CRAZY growth! edit: that's traffic to monitoring resources, not…
anyone who thinks "ipv6mess" is still relevant in 2022, doesn't understand the problem space it describes. part 1, interoperability failure/incompatibility: nat64+dns64 has been viable since 2008 part 2, incoherence:…
hey, sorry i didn’t respond. i may have read the reply & gotten drunk. hard to say. 1. why would you add the extra step of using a “v4-mapped v6 address” if you’re just going to end up using regular ones? 3. if you have…
1. legacy ip allocations are a huge mess, largely due to growth - mirroring that haphazard, patchwork allocation model for ipv6 would be obscenely inefficient & make the v6 dfz table as bad as the legacy ip counterpart…
ndp in ipv4 is called "arp" =D
6to4 has been de-preferenced by most operating systems. what isps provide 6to4 tunnels, or even 6in4 tunnels (which i can only assume you meant?) (agreed on the proxying point, you'd have to explicitly trust the proxy…
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the global burn rate was 4-6 weeks for a /8, iirc but there are waitlists to fulfill, so...you're probably still right. (tl;dr: "repatriate the poorly allocated legacy ip space" is a losing proposition)
> Edit regarding World IPv6 day. I must be thinking of June 6, 2012: "This time, it's for real." world ipv6 day (24 hours) was in 2011. world ipv6 launch (turn it on & leave it on) was in 2012. (ppl mix the two up all…
> I could see doing IPv6+IPv4 in a corporation and terminate everything on load balancers, allowing anything behind the LB to be any combination of IPv4/IPv6. But IPv6 only? I don't see any big companies doing that in…
derp yes https://whynoipv6.com/
this sounds like a valid argument for deploying ipv6 wherever you can, tbqh cgnat is only going to get MORE common, globally
> Part of the motivation for this was to use (mostly) unique MAC addresses (48 bits) as your identifier and that fits in 64 bits. Of course this became a massive PII leak and a tracker's dream so it never happened but…
ipv6-only web sites are borderline nonexistant, because no one who needs to maintain a profit dares to cut off a revenue stream from legacy ip only users (yet). the most exhaustive list thus far is…
okay - how about a few other angles? https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/ - per-country, and within a country, per-asn eyeball statistics, collected from online ads - not just mobile!…
by what definition would you call ipv6 "mostly a failure"? 30-40% global eyeball network (to the end user) adoption after ~10 years of active deployment, against very vocal opposition seems commendable enough to me.
it's the default behaviour by most cpe, correct any exceptions to this should be roasted (my twitter dm's are open)
those of us who want to have the same port on different computers available to the internet might see that as a bad thing
> It was relevant then -and it is relevant now- because there are good lessons in how to migrate from thing A to thing B, even if some of the then-missing necessary bits are in place now. it's irrelevant now because…
is the 22+% ipv6 adoption in .no all mobile? (honest question - i don't know) https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NO
& for "at scale" - how about 100,000,000 users? https://twitter.com/iPv4depletion/status/1584376525427978240
is "not supporting IPv6 at all" a data-backed statement? https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/ fwiw
47.57% of observed requests coming out of as14593 is ipv6, as of two days ago: https://twitter.com/noIPv6/status/1600527249282895879 & to be clear, that is CRAZY growth! edit: that's traffic to monitoring resources, not…
anyone who thinks "ipv6mess" is still relevant in 2022, doesn't understand the problem space it describes. part 1, interoperability failure/incompatibility: nat64+dns64 has been viable since 2008 part 2, incoherence:…
hey, sorry i didn’t respond. i may have read the reply & gotten drunk. hard to say. 1. why would you add the extra step of using a “v4-mapped v6 address” if you’re just going to end up using regular ones? 3. if you have…
1. legacy ip allocations are a huge mess, largely due to growth - mirroring that haphazard, patchwork allocation model for ipv6 would be obscenely inefficient & make the v6 dfz table as bad as the legacy ip counterpart…
ndp in ipv4 is called "arp" =D
6to4 has been de-preferenced by most operating systems. what isps provide 6to4 tunnels, or even 6in4 tunnels (which i can only assume you meant?) (agreed on the proxying point, you'd have to explicitly trust the proxy…