Yes, I do see a difference between apples and oranges - in areas with "vigorous competition", municipal fiber does not get support! We're talking about areas where there has been no competition, and the incumbent has…
I'm just drawing a distinction because there's this toxic political meme of labeling an area with no competition as "the free market", and smearing collective action attempting to serve themselves as "government…
5G is a red herring, as 4G would be sufficient. Before Westfield's fiber rollout, I drove around town mapping cell towers hoping to use LTE for home Internet. IMHO they're not really dense enough for such use,…
Marked based outcomes are efficient. 90 miles east of here, metro Boston generally has a choice between three modern providers - Comcast, RCN, and Verizon. The western part of the state seemingly does not have the…
> the common folk in a town have to pay at least somewhat for the municipal broadband even if they do not use it; so it'd better be worth using. Just anecdotally, there are Whip City Fiber signs up all over (you get a…
> I mean, just do a traceroute and see how many hops there are before you get to a peering node Most carrier equipment operates below layer 3, and so is invisible to traceroute. But since you referenced it: traceroute…
> That way we once again can have competition like during the time DSL was popular DSL competition never happened in the area under question. Covad (a CLEC) deployed gear in Springfield, but Westfield (40k people) was…
> Verizon has upgraded the FiOS network several times since 2005 The what network? Your comment is reasonable in the abstract, but I'm sorry to say that in the specific context it's ridiculous. There is little…
Hey, local news on HN! I'm glad to see Whip City Fiber is spreading so far up north. They started in Westfield (40k people), and then moved to building out local towns that are basically similar kind of "hilltowns"…
Yes, I do see a difference between apples and oranges - in areas with "vigorous competition", municipal fiber does not get support! We're talking about areas where there has been no competition, and the incumbent has…
I'm just drawing a distinction because there's this toxic political meme of labeling an area with no competition as "the free market", and smearing collective action attempting to serve themselves as "government…
5G is a red herring, as 4G would be sufficient. Before Westfield's fiber rollout, I drove around town mapping cell towers hoping to use LTE for home Internet. IMHO they're not really dense enough for such use,…
Marked based outcomes are efficient. 90 miles east of here, metro Boston generally has a choice between three modern providers - Comcast, RCN, and Verizon. The western part of the state seemingly does not have the…
> the common folk in a town have to pay at least somewhat for the municipal broadband even if they do not use it; so it'd better be worth using. Just anecdotally, there are Whip City Fiber signs up all over (you get a…
> I mean, just do a traceroute and see how many hops there are before you get to a peering node Most carrier equipment operates below layer 3, and so is invisible to traceroute. But since you referenced it: traceroute…
> That way we once again can have competition like during the time DSL was popular DSL competition never happened in the area under question. Covad (a CLEC) deployed gear in Springfield, but Westfield (40k people) was…
> Verizon has upgraded the FiOS network several times since 2005 The what network? Your comment is reasonable in the abstract, but I'm sorry to say that in the specific context it's ridiculous. There is little…
Hey, local news on HN! I'm glad to see Whip City Fiber is spreading so far up north. They started in Westfield (40k people), and then moved to building out local towns that are basically similar kind of "hilltowns"…