You're not at all touching on my argument. Read my reply to maxk42.
You are missing my argument completely. What I'm saying is that yes, Tolkien may have envisioned Middle Earth as proto-European fantasy, but when you're arguing for "historical accuracy", you can't pick and choose.…
When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? Did the Harfoots resemble British subjects, or do the race of men have to…
Do you have any material on this private function?
What does Apple even do in this situation? That media won't match known CSAM, but if you modify childhood images so that its hash matches CSAM, what does Apple do. There are just SO MANY things that can and will go…
Jup. As others have pointed out, if Apple were willing to lie about the extent of this system and its inception date, why should we suddenly trust that they won't extend its functionality. They themselves explicitly…
So that you are able to bypass the manual reviews. It still looks like CSAM, but it isn't.
Well that depends on the situation. Regardless the sender would be charged if found, but if they were able to get legitimate CSAM on the receiver's phone the receiver could possibly be charged too, or at least…
Yeh I was talking in hyperbole, but the possible attack vectors this system enables are so powerful I felt it warranted. Under this system you are able to artificially ddos organizations that verify if CP is sent by…
Nah that's so 2020, 2021 is all about low resolution legitimate porn being transformed to match CSAM. Get with the times!
The sender would of course be charged with wasting police efforts, defamation attempts+++. In the case of false positives the receiver of course wouldn't be charged, it's more about the fact that this system can be…
Lending your phone to someone for a call, then a quick airdrop. Legitimate-looking emails with buttons. There's probably a list somewhere of proven attack vectors.
I meant * could *. My point is that social engineering is a clear weak link in this system. They can also be sent regular photos whose hash matches the database, or use this repo to transform a regular pornographic…
This is the really scary part. Of course getting someone to download blobs that corrolate to CSAM would be one thing, but downloading regular photos that have nefarious hashes is a trend /pol/ could start in an…
Also as dannyw pointed out, you don't even have to send CSAM to trigger the system. If they found you you would still be charged, but not with possession of CSAM.
Most people wouldn't of course. In this scenario you'd get someone to download the CSAM unknowingly. If they have iCloud sync it automatically uploads to iCloud, thereby triggering the system. At that point the…
Somehow this didn't solidify my trust in Apple! By this standard you can probably mount a half decent defence off "ignorance" if you are even caught sending the colliding material. Add this whole debacle on top of…
This is just getting wilder and wilder by the day, how spectacularly this move has backfired. As others have commented, at this point all you need is someone willing to sell you the CSAM hashes on the darknet, and this…
Ye I've already seen images that look exactly like the ones from that evacuation.
I really hope it won't be another Saigon, the videos coming out of the final days are harrowing. A lot of other countries are also closing their embassies for now, and seem to be more willing to bring home Afghans…
Nice :)
Thanks for this! :)
I agree that one should look into what is being proposed and its implementation, but in both these instances backdoors are being introduced. Once backdoors are in place any government can petition access, malicious…
Yeh I must have ignored the "perceptual" part when I read it over
You're not at all touching on my argument. Read my reply to maxk42.
You're not at all touching on my argument. Read my reply to maxk42.
You are missing my argument completely. What I'm saying is that yes, Tolkien may have envisioned Middle Earth as proto-European fantasy, but when you're arguing for "historical accuracy", you can't pick and choose.…
When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? Did the Harfoots resemble British subjects, or do the race of men have to…
Do you have any material on this private function?
What does Apple even do in this situation? That media won't match known CSAM, but if you modify childhood images so that its hash matches CSAM, what does Apple do. There are just SO MANY things that can and will go…
Jup. As others have pointed out, if Apple were willing to lie about the extent of this system and its inception date, why should we suddenly trust that they won't extend its functionality. They themselves explicitly…
So that you are able to bypass the manual reviews. It still looks like CSAM, but it isn't.
Well that depends on the situation. Regardless the sender would be charged if found, but if they were able to get legitimate CSAM on the receiver's phone the receiver could possibly be charged too, or at least…
Yeh I was talking in hyperbole, but the possible attack vectors this system enables are so powerful I felt it warranted. Under this system you are able to artificially ddos organizations that verify if CP is sent by…
Nah that's so 2020, 2021 is all about low resolution legitimate porn being transformed to match CSAM. Get with the times!
The sender would of course be charged with wasting police efforts, defamation attempts+++. In the case of false positives the receiver of course wouldn't be charged, it's more about the fact that this system can be…
Lending your phone to someone for a call, then a quick airdrop. Legitimate-looking emails with buttons. There's probably a list somewhere of proven attack vectors.
I meant * could *. My point is that social engineering is a clear weak link in this system. They can also be sent regular photos whose hash matches the database, or use this repo to transform a regular pornographic…
This is the really scary part. Of course getting someone to download blobs that corrolate to CSAM would be one thing, but downloading regular photos that have nefarious hashes is a trend /pol/ could start in an…
Also as dannyw pointed out, you don't even have to send CSAM to trigger the system. If they found you you would still be charged, but not with possession of CSAM.
Most people wouldn't of course. In this scenario you'd get someone to download the CSAM unknowingly. If they have iCloud sync it automatically uploads to iCloud, thereby triggering the system. At that point the…
Somehow this didn't solidify my trust in Apple! By this standard you can probably mount a half decent defence off "ignorance" if you are even caught sending the colliding material. Add this whole debacle on top of…
This is just getting wilder and wilder by the day, how spectacularly this move has backfired. As others have commented, at this point all you need is someone willing to sell you the CSAM hashes on the darknet, and this…
Ye I've already seen images that look exactly like the ones from that evacuation.
I really hope it won't be another Saigon, the videos coming out of the final days are harrowing. A lot of other countries are also closing their embassies for now, and seem to be more willing to bring home Afghans…
Nice :)
Thanks for this! :)
I agree that one should look into what is being proposed and its implementation, but in both these instances backdoors are being introduced. Once backdoors are in place any government can petition access, malicious…
Yeh I must have ignored the "perceptual" part when I read it over