No. Here's a quote from our X account: > Google committed a fix on June 15th and it was shipped in the security preview patches in mid-July. GrapheneOS shipped it in our security preview releases in July. It's in the…
> I have played this game many times with Android apps I haven't had this issue myself and fortunately GrapheneOS has its scopes features and more are coming, so it's still possible to use a more private and secure OS…
In short, it doesn't affect you. Even if you tried installing the app that enforces the changes on GrapheneOS, it wouldn't have the necessary privileges to do anything.
What does GrapheneOS have to do with the post or the website? We didn't make the website nor did we help with its messaging. We agreed to be listed on the website, but we describe the changes differently when it comes…
Although many people do say that there's an issue with banking apps on GrapheneOS, I don't believe that's actually the case. Many banking apps work just fine. In cases where other apps refuse to run, GrapheneOS has…
What you're saying doesn't make any sense. I literally just said that GrapheneOS isn't affected. The narrative that GrapheneOS is so focused on security that it affects usability, especially given the context, is…
Not at all. The app that is enforcing the change is a privileged Google app. Even if someone tried installing it on GrapheneOS, it wouldn't be able to do anything like remove apps, block installation, or disable apps.
They pointed out privacy issues and you're still claiming that GrapheneOS is security first? Location leaks are a privacy issue, for example. GrapheneOS doesn't have such a narrow focus. As we keep saying, GrapheneOS…
You do realize that people use the flag feature all the time, right? People have abused the feature to remove our comments in the past too. It's beyond unacceptable to accuse us, without basis, that we're flagging all…
We were pulled into this conversation by people who were attacking GrapheneOS. We didn't want to participate in this conversation. GrapheneOS doesn't recommend or support microG. The topic of this entire post has…
The point of GrapheneOS is privacy, period, not something as narrow as simply deGoogling. GrapheneOS isn't a single person. One or two of us responding to misinformation on socials doesn't mean work isn't getting done.…
As a member of the GrapheneOS team, I can say you're very incorrect. Within the project, there's a lot of discussion and collaboration. Daniel is the most famous of all of us because he started the project, but we all…
Sandboxed Google Play isn't installed by default, so users have a choice if they want to use it or not. Many don't. GrapheneOS is more deGoogled than alternatives, so if you're thinking privacy = deGoogling, then…
The hostility is one-sided. I went back through old posts and found that while people on the GrapheneOS side (before my time) were sharing _objective facts_, and Murena's started responding with personal attacks.…
You're not seeing the big picture. Imagine every app with a Google library is basically the app & mini Google Play Services. --- App & mini Google Play Services = access is restricted, like other regular apps. App &…
There is a huge list of issues with /e/OS. Let me just give you a few examples: Android 17 introduced a local network permission. GrapheneOS ported to Android 17 months ago. LineageOS, which /e/OS is based on just…
I started to try to answer your question, but I found that the GrapheneOS account gave an answer. Here are quotes: > microG still heavily uses closed source Google services and even downloads executables run with the…
By "they" I assume you mean GrapheneOS supporters? I can only speak for myself, but I only flag things when they clearly deserve to be flagged. Fair discussions are important. They help us grow as people and even in our…
> I don't understand how you're gaining any privacy as a practical matter. Exactly. Being too focused on "Google bad" means you're not seeing the bigger picture. microG is only a thing to provide app compatibility for…
We are partnered with Motorola, so people will have that option in the near future. Also, GrapheneOS has plenty of users, and we're growing fast. People appreciate quality.
That's very false. GrapheneOS is a better choice for deGoogling than alternatives. Sandboxed Google Play isn't installed by default, so our users don't have to use it if they don't want to. Sandboxed Google Play doesn't…
It's not a priority but GrapheneOS does better at deGoogling than other OSes, including adding features to the OS so people have fewer reasons to install Sandboxed Google Play. One big example is Network Location, so…
That's very false. GrapheneOS is primarily a privacy OS. Sandboxed Google Play has no privileged permissions, which means that those apps have the same permissions as any other apps you can install on Android, meaning…
GrapheneOS's approach is Sandboxed Google Play so the apps don't get special permissions. Without privileged access, Google apps get access to nothing more than what other apps can get access to on Android. So, for…
GrapheneOS has a growing userbase, and of course many of the people who would like to switch to GrapheneOS are extra mindful of their devices' privacy and security. Maybe a majority of those people are more technically…
No. Here's a quote from our X account: > Google committed a fix on June 15th and it was shipped in the security preview patches in mid-July. GrapheneOS shipped it in our security preview releases in July. It's in the…
> I have played this game many times with Android apps I haven't had this issue myself and fortunately GrapheneOS has its scopes features and more are coming, so it's still possible to use a more private and secure OS…
In short, it doesn't affect you. Even if you tried installing the app that enforces the changes on GrapheneOS, it wouldn't have the necessary privileges to do anything.
What does GrapheneOS have to do with the post or the website? We didn't make the website nor did we help with its messaging. We agreed to be listed on the website, but we describe the changes differently when it comes…
Although many people do say that there's an issue with banking apps on GrapheneOS, I don't believe that's actually the case. Many banking apps work just fine. In cases where other apps refuse to run, GrapheneOS has…
What you're saying doesn't make any sense. I literally just said that GrapheneOS isn't affected. The narrative that GrapheneOS is so focused on security that it affects usability, especially given the context, is…
Not at all. The app that is enforcing the change is a privileged Google app. Even if someone tried installing it on GrapheneOS, it wouldn't be able to do anything like remove apps, block installation, or disable apps.
They pointed out privacy issues and you're still claiming that GrapheneOS is security first? Location leaks are a privacy issue, for example. GrapheneOS doesn't have such a narrow focus. As we keep saying, GrapheneOS…
You do realize that people use the flag feature all the time, right? People have abused the feature to remove our comments in the past too. It's beyond unacceptable to accuse us, without basis, that we're flagging all…
We were pulled into this conversation by people who were attacking GrapheneOS. We didn't want to participate in this conversation. GrapheneOS doesn't recommend or support microG. The topic of this entire post has…
The point of GrapheneOS is privacy, period, not something as narrow as simply deGoogling. GrapheneOS isn't a single person. One or two of us responding to misinformation on socials doesn't mean work isn't getting done.…
As a member of the GrapheneOS team, I can say you're very incorrect. Within the project, there's a lot of discussion and collaboration. Daniel is the most famous of all of us because he started the project, but we all…
Sandboxed Google Play isn't installed by default, so users have a choice if they want to use it or not. Many don't. GrapheneOS is more deGoogled than alternatives, so if you're thinking privacy = deGoogling, then…
The hostility is one-sided. I went back through old posts and found that while people on the GrapheneOS side (before my time) were sharing _objective facts_, and Murena's started responding with personal attacks.…
You're not seeing the big picture. Imagine every app with a Google library is basically the app & mini Google Play Services. --- App & mini Google Play Services = access is restricted, like other regular apps. App &…
There is a huge list of issues with /e/OS. Let me just give you a few examples: Android 17 introduced a local network permission. GrapheneOS ported to Android 17 months ago. LineageOS, which /e/OS is based on just…
I started to try to answer your question, but I found that the GrapheneOS account gave an answer. Here are quotes: > microG still heavily uses closed source Google services and even downloads executables run with the…
By "they" I assume you mean GrapheneOS supporters? I can only speak for myself, but I only flag things when they clearly deserve to be flagged. Fair discussions are important. They help us grow as people and even in our…
> I don't understand how you're gaining any privacy as a practical matter. Exactly. Being too focused on "Google bad" means you're not seeing the bigger picture. microG is only a thing to provide app compatibility for…
We are partnered with Motorola, so people will have that option in the near future. Also, GrapheneOS has plenty of users, and we're growing fast. People appreciate quality.
That's very false. GrapheneOS is a better choice for deGoogling than alternatives. Sandboxed Google Play isn't installed by default, so our users don't have to use it if they don't want to. Sandboxed Google Play doesn't…
It's not a priority but GrapheneOS does better at deGoogling than other OSes, including adding features to the OS so people have fewer reasons to install Sandboxed Google Play. One big example is Network Location, so…
That's very false. GrapheneOS is primarily a privacy OS. Sandboxed Google Play has no privileged permissions, which means that those apps have the same permissions as any other apps you can install on Android, meaning…
GrapheneOS's approach is Sandboxed Google Play so the apps don't get special permissions. Without privileged access, Google apps get access to nothing more than what other apps can get access to on Android. So, for…
GrapheneOS has a growing userbase, and of course many of the people who would like to switch to GrapheneOS are extra mindful of their devices' privacy and security. Maybe a majority of those people are more technically…