I do believe the election was stolen. This is because I have yet to see any honest attempt to refute the claims that have been made. Refutations in the media generally boil down to "its been dismissed by dozens of…
As one example, the Michigan case King v Whitmer: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905... https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905... In the plaintiff's prayer for relief, one…
> A majority vote within Texas cannot deprive any in the minority of the protection of the US Constitution In a lot of people's opinions, that ship sailed long ago. The Constitution has long been ignored and minorities…
> And I'm sorry that you take this laughable stuff at face value. If you have just 2 minutes I would kindly request you play below video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZXkAv7yKgw&list=UU8Ioh4atND... Her testimony…
It's a sad state in America when judges dismiss legitimate claims as being "wild, nonsensical" for literally no reason except partisan politics, and 50% of the country is OK with that.
> You're missing a fundamental point: anyone can make wild, nonsensical claims. it is not for the judge to "refute" them, it is for the plaintiff to substantiate them. The affidavits were not "wild, nonsensical claims".…
The Trump campaign has stated a belief that this was organized from the top down. I am not in agreement with that. I do not think there was some conspiracy from the top to commit fraud. I think the fraud happened at an…
Judge Kenny's judgement is below: https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/... For the specific claim that we are discussing (poll challengers being kicked out at TCF), his ruling does not address the…
> For the specific claim made above (Biden and Trump both filled in, going to Biden), if I recall it was one of the witnesses during the Michigan legislature hearing. To follow up on this, specific citation is below.…
> Start by making a specific claim. Specific claim: During the counting at the TCF Center in Michigan, Republican poll watchers were denied their legal right to meaningful observation. This resulted in many hours of…
> And those judges were probably presented solid evidence that amounted to more than conspiracy and hand waving. The problem is, that many of the judges themselves are guilty of hand-waving away the evidence/affidavits.…
> It's up to the charlatans filing the frivolous lawsuits to "PROVE" their claims This is true. It is up to them to prove it. > I've already provided you with links and citations, but you're ignoring them, so I'm not…
Thanks for the links. I have reviewed the first link some weeks back. From what I can tell, the judgement falls under the "casual dismissal" category. Aside from the fact that the judgement is loaded with clearly biased…
> The judge didn't see it that way: > "This court has no authority to take away the right to vote of even a single person, let alone millions of citizens." That's his opinion and he's entitled to it, but it's not a…
For an executive summary of the evidence available, the Texas lawsuit is a good starting point (first 36 pages). https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/ima... For Michigan specifically this document…
Maybe it just seems this way, but it seems like it's been a very long time since a US President has not started any new wars. I agree with you - it is a point in his favor that he's at least trying to pull out of these…
> All you've proven is that you're "unquestioning", which is why you're parroting disproven lies. I have not seen any evidence that these claims have been "disproven". I would be very interested in this evidence if you…
For the specific claim made above (Biden and Trump both filled in, going to Biden), if I recall it was one of the witnesses during the Michigan legislature hearing. For your other citation requests, please see:…
> Don't be ridiculous. No other president has ever tried to overturn the results of an election like Trump. He's trying to overturn the election, yes. Through the legal system. Isn't that the way these things should be…
In Michigan, based on testimony/affidavits: 1) The poll workers were almost exclusively Democrats. 2) It was only Republican poll watchers who were being thrown out 3) Republican poll watchers were not replaced after…
In reply to sibling post by DonHopkins > "I'm not racist, but [racist shit]..." "I don't mean to be rude, but [rude shit]..." "I'm not a Trump supporter, but [parrots Trump's lies]..." I'm not a racist. I try to be…
> unable to point to anything convincing? It's pretty well documented that poll watchers were denied their lawful right of meaningful observation. The counter-claim to this is that the poll-watchers were being…
I'm not defending Trump. He's a terrible person. But, to me, he's not much worse than other Presidents. Other Presidents have started wars. Tortured people. Persecuted whistleblowers. Spied on the American people.…
> Censorship usually involves removing one side's articles and reasoning and not even attempting to dispute it. This is what I find most disturbing about this election. There is a significant portion of people in…
The Arizona case was denied essentially because the affidavits were declared hear-say, because the testimony wasn't provided during court. I'm not a lawyer, but that doesn't make sense to me. First, it took weeks to…
I do believe the election was stolen. This is because I have yet to see any honest attempt to refute the claims that have been made. Refutations in the media generally boil down to "its been dismissed by dozens of…
As one example, the Michigan case King v Whitmer: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905... https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905... In the plaintiff's prayer for relief, one…
> A majority vote within Texas cannot deprive any in the minority of the protection of the US Constitution In a lot of people's opinions, that ship sailed long ago. The Constitution has long been ignored and minorities…
> And I'm sorry that you take this laughable stuff at face value. If you have just 2 minutes I would kindly request you play below video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZXkAv7yKgw&list=UU8Ioh4atND... Her testimony…
It's a sad state in America when judges dismiss legitimate claims as being "wild, nonsensical" for literally no reason except partisan politics, and 50% of the country is OK with that.
> You're missing a fundamental point: anyone can make wild, nonsensical claims. it is not for the judge to "refute" them, it is for the plaintiff to substantiate them. The affidavits were not "wild, nonsensical claims".…
The Trump campaign has stated a belief that this was organized from the top down. I am not in agreement with that. I do not think there was some conspiracy from the top to commit fraud. I think the fraud happened at an…
Judge Kenny's judgement is below: https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/... For the specific claim that we are discussing (poll challengers being kicked out at TCF), his ruling does not address the…
> For the specific claim made above (Biden and Trump both filled in, going to Biden), if I recall it was one of the witnesses during the Michigan legislature hearing. To follow up on this, specific citation is below.…
> Start by making a specific claim. Specific claim: During the counting at the TCF Center in Michigan, Republican poll watchers were denied their legal right to meaningful observation. This resulted in many hours of…
> And those judges were probably presented solid evidence that amounted to more than conspiracy and hand waving. The problem is, that many of the judges themselves are guilty of hand-waving away the evidence/affidavits.…
> It's up to the charlatans filing the frivolous lawsuits to "PROVE" their claims This is true. It is up to them to prove it. > I've already provided you with links and citations, but you're ignoring them, so I'm not…
Thanks for the links. I have reviewed the first link some weeks back. From what I can tell, the judgement falls under the "casual dismissal" category. Aside from the fact that the judgement is loaded with clearly biased…
> The judge didn't see it that way: > "This court has no authority to take away the right to vote of even a single person, let alone millions of citizens." That's his opinion and he's entitled to it, but it's not a…
For an executive summary of the evidence available, the Texas lawsuit is a good starting point (first 36 pages). https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/ima... For Michigan specifically this document…
Maybe it just seems this way, but it seems like it's been a very long time since a US President has not started any new wars. I agree with you - it is a point in his favor that he's at least trying to pull out of these…
> All you've proven is that you're "unquestioning", which is why you're parroting disproven lies. I have not seen any evidence that these claims have been "disproven". I would be very interested in this evidence if you…
For the specific claim made above (Biden and Trump both filled in, going to Biden), if I recall it was one of the witnesses during the Michigan legislature hearing. For your other citation requests, please see:…
> Don't be ridiculous. No other president has ever tried to overturn the results of an election like Trump. He's trying to overturn the election, yes. Through the legal system. Isn't that the way these things should be…
In Michigan, based on testimony/affidavits: 1) The poll workers were almost exclusively Democrats. 2) It was only Republican poll watchers who were being thrown out 3) Republican poll watchers were not replaced after…
In reply to sibling post by DonHopkins > "I'm not racist, but [racist shit]..." "I don't mean to be rude, but [rude shit]..." "I'm not a Trump supporter, but [parrots Trump's lies]..." I'm not a racist. I try to be…
> unable to point to anything convincing? It's pretty well documented that poll watchers were denied their lawful right of meaningful observation. The counter-claim to this is that the poll-watchers were being…
I'm not defending Trump. He's a terrible person. But, to me, he's not much worse than other Presidents. Other Presidents have started wars. Tortured people. Persecuted whistleblowers. Spied on the American people.…
> Censorship usually involves removing one side's articles and reasoning and not even attempting to dispute it. This is what I find most disturbing about this election. There is a significant portion of people in…
The Arizona case was denied essentially because the affidavits were declared hear-say, because the testimony wasn't provided during court. I'm not a lawyer, but that doesn't make sense to me. First, it took weeks to…