> Opera has said they will leave all the core stuff to Google and just modify UI and other stuff on top. False. Opera has said they will contribute to both WebKit and Chromium. > But it is the case here when…
You wrote: > almost all the work on Opera's new browser will be done by Google. That is why I said "outsourcing development to Google" According to that logic, using any open-source component is outsourcing…
A metaphor for what? What's the loaded gun?
Who says employees don't have the full picture? The reasons are even stated in public. Why would they be terrified of speaking in public -- and if they are, why are several people doing it? You say that speculating is…
Actually, look at the Q4 presentation. Operators are less than 20%. Desktop is the second biggest with nearly 30%, while publishing/advertising is the biggest revenue source with more than 40%.
What are you talking about? Loaded gun? Are you seriously suggesting that the company is using threats of physical violence to shut former employees up? Who cares about the founder? He previously said he wouldn't…
Strange how my karma takes a nosedive because I contradict the "evil Opera is doomed" thing...
You are misunderstanding what "using Chromium means." As I replied to cpeterso: Using the Chromium framework doesn't mean that you are using the actual final Chromium UI. The CEO himself said they're building a new UI.…
Using the Chromium framework doesn't mean that you are using the actual final Chromium UI. The CEO himself said they're building a new UI.
What makes you think they aren't goig to work on Webkit? Out of those 90 people who left or were fired, there were marketing, sales, etc. personell. Only a minority was probably an actual developer.
What makes you think Opera is outsourcing development to Google? Just because something is using a framework doesn't mean they aren't using it to build their own thing on top of it. Your comment doesn't make sense. It's…
What makes you think it will just be a skin on top of Chrome?
Execpt all 90 were not developers. They were marketing, sales, etc. Some were engineers, but it seems they were a minority.
Several of them? Such as?
The story is misleading. 90 people have either left of their own free will or were let go for various reasons. Those 90 were not all developers, but included marketing, sales, and other non-engineering staff. All the…
So it is not actually out of fear for the current management, then? It's just a general fear of speaking of one's former employer if one was let go? If so, why even mention Opera specifically then?
Your conspiracy theory kind of falls flat on its face, since former employees have in fact spoken publicly on this. What you can gather doesn't seem to be very useful either since the quoted number is correct. It's the…
Have you ever heard about ads?
> Opera was actually strict pro-standard.. sometimes for their own bad. Not quite. They always made every effort to be as compatible as possible with real world sites.
> Opera having low tolerance for that Except that is not true. Opera has a high tolerance, probably much higher than any other browser (out of necessity). But that doesn't help much if you're being blocked or sites…
Why wouldn't they be using Opera anymore? They will be used to Opera, and the brand will be well known to most people. Why do you think Google is desperate to enter these markets right now?
StatCounter is a terrible source for anything outside of North America and Western Europe.
You should probably update your stats scripts.
> No, they're literally copying Chromium. They're forking the source tree and including it as the rendering engine in their browser. That is a verbatim copy. This is misleading nonsense. You led people to believe…
> they're switching to copying Chrome How so? Like Chrome copied Safari because they're both using Webkit? > They'll continue to be the browser that nobody cares about (aside from six people who are no doubt…
> Opera has said they will leave all the core stuff to Google and just modify UI and other stuff on top. False. Opera has said they will contribute to both WebKit and Chromium. > But it is the case here when…
You wrote: > almost all the work on Opera's new browser will be done by Google. That is why I said "outsourcing development to Google" According to that logic, using any open-source component is outsourcing…
A metaphor for what? What's the loaded gun?
Who says employees don't have the full picture? The reasons are even stated in public. Why would they be terrified of speaking in public -- and if they are, why are several people doing it? You say that speculating is…
Actually, look at the Q4 presentation. Operators are less than 20%. Desktop is the second biggest with nearly 30%, while publishing/advertising is the biggest revenue source with more than 40%.
What are you talking about? Loaded gun? Are you seriously suggesting that the company is using threats of physical violence to shut former employees up? Who cares about the founder? He previously said he wouldn't…
Strange how my karma takes a nosedive because I contradict the "evil Opera is doomed" thing...
You are misunderstanding what "using Chromium means." As I replied to cpeterso: Using the Chromium framework doesn't mean that you are using the actual final Chromium UI. The CEO himself said they're building a new UI.…
Using the Chromium framework doesn't mean that you are using the actual final Chromium UI. The CEO himself said they're building a new UI.
What makes you think they aren't goig to work on Webkit? Out of those 90 people who left or were fired, there were marketing, sales, etc. personell. Only a minority was probably an actual developer.
What makes you think Opera is outsourcing development to Google? Just because something is using a framework doesn't mean they aren't using it to build their own thing on top of it. Your comment doesn't make sense. It's…
What makes you think it will just be a skin on top of Chrome?
Execpt all 90 were not developers. They were marketing, sales, etc. Some were engineers, but it seems they were a minority.
Several of them? Such as?
The story is misleading. 90 people have either left of their own free will or were let go for various reasons. Those 90 were not all developers, but included marketing, sales, and other non-engineering staff. All the…
So it is not actually out of fear for the current management, then? It's just a general fear of speaking of one's former employer if one was let go? If so, why even mention Opera specifically then?
Your conspiracy theory kind of falls flat on its face, since former employees have in fact spoken publicly on this. What you can gather doesn't seem to be very useful either since the quoted number is correct. It's the…
Have you ever heard about ads?
> Opera was actually strict pro-standard.. sometimes for their own bad. Not quite. They always made every effort to be as compatible as possible with real world sites.
> Opera having low tolerance for that Except that is not true. Opera has a high tolerance, probably much higher than any other browser (out of necessity). But that doesn't help much if you're being blocked or sites…
Why wouldn't they be using Opera anymore? They will be used to Opera, and the brand will be well known to most people. Why do you think Google is desperate to enter these markets right now?
StatCounter is a terrible source for anything outside of North America and Western Europe.
You should probably update your stats scripts.
> No, they're literally copying Chromium. They're forking the source tree and including it as the rendering engine in their browser. That is a verbatim copy. This is misleading nonsense. You led people to believe…
> they're switching to copying Chrome How so? Like Chrome copied Safari because they're both using Webkit? > They'll continue to be the browser that nobody cares about (aside from six people who are no doubt…