No, Kaczynski compiled his own writings. He also wrote a second book, Anti-Tech Revolution. In Kacynski's latest edition of Technological Slavery Skrbina's introduction doesn't even appear. It was a shitty introduction…
The book Technological Slavery is not "by" David Skrbina. It is by Theodore Kaczynski. Skrbina just wrote the "afterward" in that book.
His books are even better. "Anti-Tech Revolution" and "Technological Slavery".
Agreed.
Thank you for this discussion. Suffice it to say I think you are dead wrong here. But a debate on the points you now raise is beyond the time I have to devote now.
"(a) humans behaved the way he needs them to behave for his system to work." This is flatly wrong. Humans aren't "needed" to behave in this system in any way other than they have always behaved throughout history. The…
You're still conflating the success of a tactic in furtherance of a goal with the success of a goal.
"..the Unabomber gets remembered as this struggle's John Brown, not this struggle's Abraham Lincoln." You could be right about this. But then you could be wrong. Ideas still matter, and their particular expression still…
On this point you would do well to read the third chapter of "Anti-Tech Revolution." In it, Kaczynski argues for why an anti-tech revolution as he lays out would succeed and why its success would be more or less…
"You appear to be assuming the communist manifesto was a success due to the Russian Revolution." You've missed the point. The point is not that the communist manifesto was ultimately successful or not judging by how its…
Now, when looking at the short-term (historically speaking), Kaczynski's actions have been a resounding success. The manifesto and his other works are read by millions--far far more than if they were published…
This only makes sense if you place a limited and arbitrary timeframe on when "success" must be achieved, and what the "success" should be. Remember, the communist manifesto was published in 1848, and by your standard of…
"His approach was not successful, no." According to what criteria do you make this determination?
"The tranquility he's describing would, I imagine, guide one to understand that you can't control other people's actions." This makes no sense.
Also check out Kaczynski's books: "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution."
"...whether or not murder is acceptable..." Here you're begging the question. Murder is unjustified killing, and by calling something murder before you've even fully determined the truth of the justification, your…
Check out "Anti-Tech Revolution." That's his second book.
“There is an old saying in politics: ‘As soon as you start explaining, you have lost.’ It becomes incredibly difficult to counter misinformation with a point by point rebuttal—even when you are trying to bring science…
What are you worried about? A debate about facts on a controversial topic with someone who is interested in it? Why does everyone here seem so timid and silly? Is it really necessary to get your panties in a bundle…
This constitutes the "proof" that Kaczynski was somehow lastingly affected by the study? A writers theory in a book? The problem with that is that I can just as well present evidence that the book is completely…
"If anything's a conspiracy theory, it's that the entirety of your comment history on Hacker News, spanning 2 years is to post solely on the topic of the Unabomber, and that you do the same thing on Reddit." How is that…
Kaczynski has come out and said it wasn't stressful, and that it was mostly multiple choice questions. Other participants in the study and other researchers involved have come out and stated that it was benign. No other…
Yes, this is more or less correct. You should absolutely read Kaczynski's two books as well, "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution."
"200 hours of brutal psychological experimentation" This is a conspiracy theory and a myth.
"Not to fail in an ad hominem" You mean TO fail in an ad hominem.
No, Kaczynski compiled his own writings. He also wrote a second book, Anti-Tech Revolution. In Kacynski's latest edition of Technological Slavery Skrbina's introduction doesn't even appear. It was a shitty introduction…
The book Technological Slavery is not "by" David Skrbina. It is by Theodore Kaczynski. Skrbina just wrote the "afterward" in that book.
His books are even better. "Anti-Tech Revolution" and "Technological Slavery".
Agreed.
Thank you for this discussion. Suffice it to say I think you are dead wrong here. But a debate on the points you now raise is beyond the time I have to devote now.
"(a) humans behaved the way he needs them to behave for his system to work." This is flatly wrong. Humans aren't "needed" to behave in this system in any way other than they have always behaved throughout history. The…
You're still conflating the success of a tactic in furtherance of a goal with the success of a goal.
"..the Unabomber gets remembered as this struggle's John Brown, not this struggle's Abraham Lincoln." You could be right about this. But then you could be wrong. Ideas still matter, and their particular expression still…
On this point you would do well to read the third chapter of "Anti-Tech Revolution." In it, Kaczynski argues for why an anti-tech revolution as he lays out would succeed and why its success would be more or less…
"You appear to be assuming the communist manifesto was a success due to the Russian Revolution." You've missed the point. The point is not that the communist manifesto was ultimately successful or not judging by how its…
Now, when looking at the short-term (historically speaking), Kaczynski's actions have been a resounding success. The manifesto and his other works are read by millions--far far more than if they were published…
This only makes sense if you place a limited and arbitrary timeframe on when "success" must be achieved, and what the "success" should be. Remember, the communist manifesto was published in 1848, and by your standard of…
"His approach was not successful, no." According to what criteria do you make this determination?
"The tranquility he's describing would, I imagine, guide one to understand that you can't control other people's actions." This makes no sense.
Also check out Kaczynski's books: "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution."
"...whether or not murder is acceptable..." Here you're begging the question. Murder is unjustified killing, and by calling something murder before you've even fully determined the truth of the justification, your…
Check out "Anti-Tech Revolution." That's his second book.
“There is an old saying in politics: ‘As soon as you start explaining, you have lost.’ It becomes incredibly difficult to counter misinformation with a point by point rebuttal—even when you are trying to bring science…
What are you worried about? A debate about facts on a controversial topic with someone who is interested in it? Why does everyone here seem so timid and silly? Is it really necessary to get your panties in a bundle…
This constitutes the "proof" that Kaczynski was somehow lastingly affected by the study? A writers theory in a book? The problem with that is that I can just as well present evidence that the book is completely…
"If anything's a conspiracy theory, it's that the entirety of your comment history on Hacker News, spanning 2 years is to post solely on the topic of the Unabomber, and that you do the same thing on Reddit." How is that…
Kaczynski has come out and said it wasn't stressful, and that it was mostly multiple choice questions. Other participants in the study and other researchers involved have come out and stated that it was benign. No other…
Yes, this is more or less correct. You should absolutely read Kaczynski's two books as well, "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution."
"200 hours of brutal psychological experimentation" This is a conspiracy theory and a myth.
"Not to fail in an ad hominem" You mean TO fail in an ad hominem.