Here's a A summary of some of my previous comments on this: The bulk of information about you isn't associated with your account. (or in some personal way) Rather, it's stored in other silos associated with a…
A couple concepts here: Associating data with your account: This is misleading, because the bulk of information about you isn't associated with your account. Rather, it's stored in other silos associated with a…
Answer to "How": (Copied from another comment of mine) a) The smaller company would have lower margins because they invest much more in superior materials, QA, R&D, etc. Where the larger company has an advantage because…
chestnut-tree, earlier in this thread wrote up some great examples. No unfounded criticism here; lots of research in this area. I'm not sure why you feel it sounded that way.
You are asking for a publicly available document showing the architecture of Google + Analytics + Doubleclick + Adwords... I can't get that, but other than doing experiments; you could do what I did when I first found…
That data is being sent on the original load of the Javascript file. Please refer to this section of the article: "To summarize: When google opt-out is enabled. Google still collects." (you will see a list of all the…
I think there is a big difference here between distinguishing "is this an ad? y/n" vs "is this an allowed ad? y/n"
Useful and obtrusive are not mutually exclusive. Is it useful to have only large companies with large ad budgets peddle a slight iteration to their product line as "the next best thing", while smaller companies with a…
From OPs article: > the google analytics blocker does not stop your browser talking to google-analytics.com. Period. That excerpt explains that it's not actually stopping any data from being sent. Thus it's not actually…
It's not speculation. Are you asking for more of a deeper explanation of how the internal API works, or do you want to see published papers/links about it? Google doesn't publicly document the "Google Analytics Internal…
Your report will have 0s for those users. Ideally your SaaS web app should use another tool for tracking analytics data instead. Google is a bad choice because you are basically tagging all your customers as "Dear…
What are better ads? Are they ads that really connect with you? Do they change your behavior in some significant way? What makes ads better for the consumer? What makes ads better for the marketer? My answer is that…
Are you looking for examples of entire policies or do you mean misleading sentences? Are you not sure why I find them misleading (based on OPs example, et. al.), or do you disagree and find them to not be misleading?
Adblock is unfair because the "unintrusive ads" aren't that - they are just "companies who have paid more to have their ads shown - ads". I would say that's both unfair and terrible because a) it disavantages smaller…
OPs linked article reinforces his point. The opt-out doesn't work- because they are not opting out and data is still being sent. (nevermind how that flag is set and Google is learning more about you despite your traffic…
I'm pointing out that "Google" and "Google Analytics" are separate and that when your data is collected "Google" gets it, processes it and then pushes the refined data to "Google Analytics". The raw data is used in the…
The tag manager does. The code you are linking to is a developer reference for the raw tracking code. The tag manager has a "noscript" tag that points to an iframe with the domain googletagmanager.com
Could be both. I looks like it was just made a long time ago with older design standards. It is commonly used in discussion & feature comparison to make people think that they can opt out. Even implying that webmasters…
It's more than a PR stunt - it's actually misleading people into thinking that there are tools which can reduce or block the data that is sent to google - when in fact this tool doesn't do that at all. This tool only…
Be careful because the Google Analytics code (newest version includes a noscript section that loads an iframe within it) - No script will not block that.
What about the doubleclick domains and adwords domains which feed the same data into the same system too? And what about when they launch a new domain? (Would be difficult to keep up with those changes)
Yes, it still works that way. (Downloads both the JavaScript file and the pixel)
Yes - good resource. All of Google's TOS/Privacy-Polcies are so full of vague and misleading legal speak (on purpose of course), I'm not surprised that OP was tricked.
That doesn't do what you think it does. It only excludes your data from being included in Google Analytics reports that website owners "end users" see. All your data still goes to "the borg" as if nothing has really…
What do you mean by "pretty much independent" due to "antitrust concerns"? (Source?)
Here's a A summary of some of my previous comments on this: The bulk of information about you isn't associated with your account. (or in some personal way) Rather, it's stored in other silos associated with a…
A couple concepts here: Associating data with your account: This is misleading, because the bulk of information about you isn't associated with your account. Rather, it's stored in other silos associated with a…
Answer to "How": (Copied from another comment of mine) a) The smaller company would have lower margins because they invest much more in superior materials, QA, R&D, etc. Where the larger company has an advantage because…
chestnut-tree, earlier in this thread wrote up some great examples. No unfounded criticism here; lots of research in this area. I'm not sure why you feel it sounded that way.
You are asking for a publicly available document showing the architecture of Google + Analytics + Doubleclick + Adwords... I can't get that, but other than doing experiments; you could do what I did when I first found…
That data is being sent on the original load of the Javascript file. Please refer to this section of the article: "To summarize: When google opt-out is enabled. Google still collects." (you will see a list of all the…
I think there is a big difference here between distinguishing "is this an ad? y/n" vs "is this an allowed ad? y/n"
Useful and obtrusive are not mutually exclusive. Is it useful to have only large companies with large ad budgets peddle a slight iteration to their product line as "the next best thing", while smaller companies with a…
From OPs article: > the google analytics blocker does not stop your browser talking to google-analytics.com. Period. That excerpt explains that it's not actually stopping any data from being sent. Thus it's not actually…
It's not speculation. Are you asking for more of a deeper explanation of how the internal API works, or do you want to see published papers/links about it? Google doesn't publicly document the "Google Analytics Internal…
Your report will have 0s for those users. Ideally your SaaS web app should use another tool for tracking analytics data instead. Google is a bad choice because you are basically tagging all your customers as "Dear…
What are better ads? Are they ads that really connect with you? Do they change your behavior in some significant way? What makes ads better for the consumer? What makes ads better for the marketer? My answer is that…
Are you looking for examples of entire policies or do you mean misleading sentences? Are you not sure why I find them misleading (based on OPs example, et. al.), or do you disagree and find them to not be misleading?
Adblock is unfair because the "unintrusive ads" aren't that - they are just "companies who have paid more to have their ads shown - ads". I would say that's both unfair and terrible because a) it disavantages smaller…
OPs linked article reinforces his point. The opt-out doesn't work- because they are not opting out and data is still being sent. (nevermind how that flag is set and Google is learning more about you despite your traffic…
I'm pointing out that "Google" and "Google Analytics" are separate and that when your data is collected "Google" gets it, processes it and then pushes the refined data to "Google Analytics". The raw data is used in the…
The tag manager does. The code you are linking to is a developer reference for the raw tracking code. The tag manager has a "noscript" tag that points to an iframe with the domain googletagmanager.com
Could be both. I looks like it was just made a long time ago with older design standards. It is commonly used in discussion & feature comparison to make people think that they can opt out. Even implying that webmasters…
It's more than a PR stunt - it's actually misleading people into thinking that there are tools which can reduce or block the data that is sent to google - when in fact this tool doesn't do that at all. This tool only…
Be careful because the Google Analytics code (newest version includes a noscript section that loads an iframe within it) - No script will not block that.
What about the doubleclick domains and adwords domains which feed the same data into the same system too? And what about when they launch a new domain? (Would be difficult to keep up with those changes)
Yes, it still works that way. (Downloads both the JavaScript file and the pixel)
Yes - good resource. All of Google's TOS/Privacy-Polcies are so full of vague and misleading legal speak (on purpose of course), I'm not surprised that OP was tricked.
That doesn't do what you think it does. It only excludes your data from being included in Google Analytics reports that website owners "end users" see. All your data still goes to "the borg" as if nothing has really…
What do you mean by "pretty much independent" due to "antitrust concerns"? (Source?)