> Lab126 created some of the first e-ink technology, right? Is the Kindle, or e-ink screens, or e-ink patents, the worst thing ever... or is there something else I should know about in this space? There's a lot to…
> The fact that almost everyone wants e-Ink technology, but e-Ink prices still are still really high [2][3] leads me to believe that either there are still patents at play that prevent competition from rising up, or…
That looks like a non-answer to me. That post doesn't give any verifiable facts. Repeating it just shows a lack of desire for accurate information.
> Seriously, we have to re-think patents. The amount of money all that rent-seeking crap is costing societies each year is absurd, and not just in payments to trolls, but also stifled progress - think of stuff like…
> I determined they were happy and eager because I spent each evening with them eating and watching soccer. I was down there during Christmas, and Liat airlines happened to go on strike so I was stranded there for 3…
> It was a British project management firm and it was the first and only time I ever experienced anything like that. It wouldn't be the most ideal situation for me, but they seem eager and happy to be there. What was…
> It's incredibly difficult to find skilled tradesman in the Caribbean that will show up sober each day and perform quality work. There's a lot to unpack in that sentence. Care to elaborate?
> From what I know, e-ink tech is and has been very feasible, but is on hold since it's under patent. The company that holds the patent is notoriously slow to reach any licensing deals in a timely fashion to bring a…
> In the Ancient Greek times the Olympic Games were an opportunities for friends an enemies to come together and have FUN! Not sure if you're being serious or being sarcastic. Any evidence for your claim? The ancient…
> I mean the .fw/.ihex files, you have really not seen them? Not from E Ink. .fw is from Freescale. Never seen any .ihex E Ink waveform data file. Could you point to an actual example since you seem to imply it is very…
> The only thing I can verify myself is that waveform data from e-ink is overzealously copyrighted and protected, Could you share some evidence for this and exactly what you mean by "waveform data"? Thank you.
You're clearly mischaracterizing my post history to push your narrative instead of providing useful data for this discussion. Your communication style is abrasive enough to make me stop responding to you. Thank you.
> as always absence of evidence doesn't really mean much. My issue is that there's folks repeatedly saying confidently that there's a patent issue. Which I initially thought was real, and genuinely asked thinking they'd…
Here we find ourselves again, still without any answer about which patents and what the actual issue is. If you're attempting to initiate a thread about 'communication style' then I'll respectfully wait until we get…
You made a claim that patents are blocking progress in the display industry. When I asked you for evidence of that, you've become hostile and turned the thread into an unproductive interaction. That's my genuine…
> That is quite a jumble of overlapping / inter-locking patents. The goal is to prevent competition using similar technology. It looks effective. And to answer your next question, no I'm not in the display industry, So…
> It's impossible to respond -- it just makes assertions that are impossible to verify, and without throwing any sources. I have to say this is ridiculous. You're making a claim that patents are blocking progress. When…
> And people have given you some very detailed answers, which you never seem to respond constructively to. Could you provide a link to where you see that? I disagree with that characterization. I should also point out…
> the patents on e-ink really are holding the technology back while preventing affordable access Once again. Which patent? Which technology? All of them? I'm left convinced that you're not basing your claim on evidence,…
> you have interrogated any poster who was ever mentioned patent problems, and demanded that they provide you with sources. It is not clear why they are required to do that. OP made a claim. I asked for basic evidence.…
> The last I saw, it is indeed a complex patent and licensing issue. What do you mean by "last I saw"? You are working in the display industry?
> Finally, I seem to remember that there were a bunch of patents in the way. Remember? Meaning you worked in the display industry? I work in the display industry. I've never heard anything like what you describe, except…
Could you state clearly that you are not an industry insider. You simply made a claim that patents were being used to block progress, but had no specific evidence for it. Correct? Very simple and allows readers to form…
OK. And you've not responded to the simple question of which patent you were referring to. That makes it clear of your 'substantive'ness and again is consistent with what I've observed on HN about this type of comments.
> If you have a specific comment that discusses the objections to the e-ink patent encumbrance concept, please link them or make them again here. You seem to be intentionally engaging in a circular argument. The parent…
> Lab126 created some of the first e-ink technology, right? Is the Kindle, or e-ink screens, or e-ink patents, the worst thing ever... or is there something else I should know about in this space? There's a lot to…
> The fact that almost everyone wants e-Ink technology, but e-Ink prices still are still really high [2][3] leads me to believe that either there are still patents at play that prevent competition from rising up, or…
That looks like a non-answer to me. That post doesn't give any verifiable facts. Repeating it just shows a lack of desire for accurate information.
> Seriously, we have to re-think patents. The amount of money all that rent-seeking crap is costing societies each year is absurd, and not just in payments to trolls, but also stifled progress - think of stuff like…
> I determined they were happy and eager because I spent each evening with them eating and watching soccer. I was down there during Christmas, and Liat airlines happened to go on strike so I was stranded there for 3…
> It was a British project management firm and it was the first and only time I ever experienced anything like that. It wouldn't be the most ideal situation for me, but they seem eager and happy to be there. What was…
> It's incredibly difficult to find skilled tradesman in the Caribbean that will show up sober each day and perform quality work. There's a lot to unpack in that sentence. Care to elaborate?
> From what I know, e-ink tech is and has been very feasible, but is on hold since it's under patent. The company that holds the patent is notoriously slow to reach any licensing deals in a timely fashion to bring a…
> In the Ancient Greek times the Olympic Games were an opportunities for friends an enemies to come together and have FUN! Not sure if you're being serious or being sarcastic. Any evidence for your claim? The ancient…
> I mean the .fw/.ihex files, you have really not seen them? Not from E Ink. .fw is from Freescale. Never seen any .ihex E Ink waveform data file. Could you point to an actual example since you seem to imply it is very…
> The only thing I can verify myself is that waveform data from e-ink is overzealously copyrighted and protected, Could you share some evidence for this and exactly what you mean by "waveform data"? Thank you.
You're clearly mischaracterizing my post history to push your narrative instead of providing useful data for this discussion. Your communication style is abrasive enough to make me stop responding to you. Thank you.
> as always absence of evidence doesn't really mean much. My issue is that there's folks repeatedly saying confidently that there's a patent issue. Which I initially thought was real, and genuinely asked thinking they'd…
Here we find ourselves again, still without any answer about which patents and what the actual issue is. If you're attempting to initiate a thread about 'communication style' then I'll respectfully wait until we get…
You made a claim that patents are blocking progress in the display industry. When I asked you for evidence of that, you've become hostile and turned the thread into an unproductive interaction. That's my genuine…
> That is quite a jumble of overlapping / inter-locking patents. The goal is to prevent competition using similar technology. It looks effective. And to answer your next question, no I'm not in the display industry, So…
> It's impossible to respond -- it just makes assertions that are impossible to verify, and without throwing any sources. I have to say this is ridiculous. You're making a claim that patents are blocking progress. When…
> And people have given you some very detailed answers, which you never seem to respond constructively to. Could you provide a link to where you see that? I disagree with that characterization. I should also point out…
> the patents on e-ink really are holding the technology back while preventing affordable access Once again. Which patent? Which technology? All of them? I'm left convinced that you're not basing your claim on evidence,…
> you have interrogated any poster who was ever mentioned patent problems, and demanded that they provide you with sources. It is not clear why they are required to do that. OP made a claim. I asked for basic evidence.…
> The last I saw, it is indeed a complex patent and licensing issue. What do you mean by "last I saw"? You are working in the display industry?
> Finally, I seem to remember that there were a bunch of patents in the way. Remember? Meaning you worked in the display industry? I work in the display industry. I've never heard anything like what you describe, except…
Could you state clearly that you are not an industry insider. You simply made a claim that patents were being used to block progress, but had no specific evidence for it. Correct? Very simple and allows readers to form…
OK. And you've not responded to the simple question of which patent you were referring to. That makes it clear of your 'substantive'ness and again is consistent with what I've observed on HN about this type of comments.
> If you have a specific comment that discusses the objections to the e-ink patent encumbrance concept, please link them or make them again here. You seem to be intentionally engaging in a circular argument. The parent…