What I meant more is that the dataset they scrape is openly available for download by anyone, unlike any of the frontier labs. Not that they don’t scrape copyrighted content. Still sketch, but at least they don’t call…
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Why? Because you disagree with them? Would you rather it be an echo chamber?
LAION and Common Crawl both scraped copyrighted images. From what I can tell (I'm not an expert in this domain at all), the main difference between those two and frontier labs is in how they stored and used the data. CC…
You're right, it was an over simplification. I think public exchange of data is great for innovation and research (Common Crawl/LAION). But I still think scraping proprietary data without consent or attribution is…
And if they decide they are in charge of determining who gets this cancer cure and who doesn’t? Still good? Maybe it is, idk, you may be right. But I think it’s something people should care about.
If they scraped internet data in the same way as current day frontier labs do, then I feel the same exact way about them. Why would I feel any different if that is the case?
The [lack of] integrity of OpenAI (and any other frontier lab) should already be pretty solidified. Among other horrible things, these companies stole millions of IPs and no one seems to care anymore. Regardless of what…
I think people very much should care about who ends up owning these solutions. The person or entity that controls things like that just has more power, which isn’t necessarily a good thing
What the op was pointing out is that guys like Altman and Dario are repeatedly saying they’re going to cure xyz diseases and solve xyz huge global problems. Maybe their companies will eventually do these things, but…
This isn’t really true for many programming tasks anymore. And as the saying goes, “this is the worse they will ever be”.
Kinda depressing cus that thing used to be coding (or mastery of), which seems to be dying/being replaced by gen ai.
Do you actually think a person using an llm is going to start curing diseases and solve the obesity epidemic (in America) in lieu of creating fun personal software projects?? Or as another commenter said solve climate…
Wow thank you this was actually very helpful for me in understanding why I’m feeling so demotivated by ai. Gaining knowledge, even if not immediately useful, to become a better overall developer was a huge part of why I…
What is a "real problem" to you?
That's fair, I guess I just enjoy the craft of building stuff rather than the outcome/product itself. Which I know I can still do, but for some reason just doesn't feel the same now. Hard to explain I guess.
You can play PvP in those games. Not really the same with developing software. In fact, not using ai would probably make you lose if there was some “software PvP” mode or development.
For some reason, I feel much less excited about creating things myself just knowing that ai can do it in 1/10th of the time. Even if I know it wouldn’t turn into a business or make me money. I don’t know why that is,…
Don’t worry I’m sure it’ll be in the training data soon enough…
Genuinely so confused about your last sentence, please explain…
Why do you think people that disagree with your opinion are gatekeepers? You can still use it if you want, no one’s gate keeping anything lol.
Quite possibly the worst take I’ve ever read on hacker news. “Things are generally bad now so the entire country should roll over and get fucked.” What are you even thinking dude? Maybe take a walk outside or something..
Would love to see a source for this, but I'm assuming you don't have one and are just spreading FUD due to your political beliefs... Closest thing I could find was a little over 15,000 people in Europe who got…
> The older I get the more I realize ambition and "being ambitious" is a completely misplaced way to orient your life. > Make decisions based on what you're passionate about, based on what will bring and keep meaningful…
That was not my experience pre LLM's working with other software devs. I acknowledge that not everyone that writes software cares, but the majority of people I worked with pre-LLM did actually care that the software…
What I meant more is that the dataset they scrape is openly available for download by anyone, unlike any of the frontier labs. Not that they don’t scrape copyrighted content. Still sketch, but at least they don’t call…
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Why? Because you disagree with them? Would you rather it be an echo chamber?
LAION and Common Crawl both scraped copyrighted images. From what I can tell (I'm not an expert in this domain at all), the main difference between those two and frontier labs is in how they stored and used the data. CC…
You're right, it was an over simplification. I think public exchange of data is great for innovation and research (Common Crawl/LAION). But I still think scraping proprietary data without consent or attribution is…
And if they decide they are in charge of determining who gets this cancer cure and who doesn’t? Still good? Maybe it is, idk, you may be right. But I think it’s something people should care about.
If they scraped internet data in the same way as current day frontier labs do, then I feel the same exact way about them. Why would I feel any different if that is the case?
The [lack of] integrity of OpenAI (and any other frontier lab) should already be pretty solidified. Among other horrible things, these companies stole millions of IPs and no one seems to care anymore. Regardless of what…
I think people very much should care about who ends up owning these solutions. The person or entity that controls things like that just has more power, which isn’t necessarily a good thing
What the op was pointing out is that guys like Altman and Dario are repeatedly saying they’re going to cure xyz diseases and solve xyz huge global problems. Maybe their companies will eventually do these things, but…
This isn’t really true for many programming tasks anymore. And as the saying goes, “this is the worse they will ever be”.
Kinda depressing cus that thing used to be coding (or mastery of), which seems to be dying/being replaced by gen ai.
Do you actually think a person using an llm is going to start curing diseases and solve the obesity epidemic (in America) in lieu of creating fun personal software projects?? Or as another commenter said solve climate…
Wow thank you this was actually very helpful for me in understanding why I’m feeling so demotivated by ai. Gaining knowledge, even if not immediately useful, to become a better overall developer was a huge part of why I…
What is a "real problem" to you?
That's fair, I guess I just enjoy the craft of building stuff rather than the outcome/product itself. Which I know I can still do, but for some reason just doesn't feel the same now. Hard to explain I guess.
You can play PvP in those games. Not really the same with developing software. In fact, not using ai would probably make you lose if there was some “software PvP” mode or development.
For some reason, I feel much less excited about creating things myself just knowing that ai can do it in 1/10th of the time. Even if I know it wouldn’t turn into a business or make me money. I don’t know why that is,…
Don’t worry I’m sure it’ll be in the training data soon enough…
Genuinely so confused about your last sentence, please explain…
Why do you think people that disagree with your opinion are gatekeepers? You can still use it if you want, no one’s gate keeping anything lol.
Quite possibly the worst take I’ve ever read on hacker news. “Things are generally bad now so the entire country should roll over and get fucked.” What are you even thinking dude? Maybe take a walk outside or something..
Would love to see a source for this, but I'm assuming you don't have one and are just spreading FUD due to your political beliefs... Closest thing I could find was a little over 15,000 people in Europe who got…
> The older I get the more I realize ambition and "being ambitious" is a completely misplaced way to orient your life. > Make decisions based on what you're passionate about, based on what will bring and keep meaningful…
That was not my experience pre LLM's working with other software devs. I acknowledge that not everyone that writes software cares, but the majority of people I worked with pre-LLM did actually care that the software…