Well it's not meaningfully different from a vote in that it forces the employer to deal. But it does mean that there are no closed shops, so nobody is forced to join a union just to work in a certain place.
For an American libertarian, fairy stories about how the think the world would work count for much more than looking at how things actually work in other places.
I love how libertarians come in with this kind of fairy story as if there aren't real world examples to look at. Here in England nobody forces you to join a union, it's still voluntary, and lots of people are members.
I hate to say it but I think the UK system is better. No closed shops, but if enough of the workplace (50%?) join the union, the employer has to deal with them.
In the US they still have closed shops (where you have to be a union member to work there), and in the UK you still need to reach a threshold of membership before the employer has to 'recognise' them and negotiate with…
Well it's not meaningfully different from a vote in that it forces the employer to deal. But it does mean that there are no closed shops, so nobody is forced to join a union just to work in a certain place.
For an American libertarian, fairy stories about how the think the world would work count for much more than looking at how things actually work in other places.
I love how libertarians come in with this kind of fairy story as if there aren't real world examples to look at. Here in England nobody forces you to join a union, it's still voluntary, and lots of people are members.
I hate to say it but I think the UK system is better. No closed shops, but if enough of the workplace (50%?) join the union, the employer has to deal with them.
In the US they still have closed shops (where you have to be a union member to work there), and in the UK you still need to reach a threshold of membership before the employer has to 'recognise' them and negotiate with…