As a maintainer: some issues take longer to triage than others. Especially if they are not CRITICAL, and there's a huge holiday season in the midst of it. :) I know I have been involved in a couple which took time to…
There's a perception that this is true, and like all perceptions it is based in reality, but it is not the reality itself. We have plenty of data that shows that people DO get promoted at all levels based on OSS work.
Define "killing kubernetes"? It's still pretty successful and the adoption hasn't slowed in any way I can measure. I promise you that some site you used TODAY is running, at least part of it, on Kubernetes. Google…
This was, literally, one of the arguments for building and releasing kubernetes. The rise of Hadoop made it much harder to justify MapReduce being different. If we just talked about Borg, but didn't ship code, someone…
(Building on my own tweets) Autopilot and Fargate are VERY different solutions to similar problem statements. Autopilot puts compatibility & transparency at the front. It IS GKE. It is integrated in all the same ways…
Since this started by citing me, I feel somewhat obligated to defend my guidance. I stand by it. In an ideal world where apps are totally regular and load is equally balanced and every request is equally expensive and…
Free (zonal) cluster per account, regardless of size, should cover a lot of this, no?
Try KIND. Much better devex.
This is a fair point. We don't have an HA (multi-master) zonal offering either, because mostly people don't want that.
EKS has always had a fee. AKS, well, I don't have any insight into their business, but I have my suspicions.
That is not absolute truth. If it were you would eschew kubernetes altogether and just use VMs. Everything is a tradeoff. If you want total isolation, you pay for it. If you don't want to pay for it, you make more…
Those empty clusters that you get for free cost Google money. Perhaps it never should have been free, because that skewed incentives towards models like this.
I don't think that is at all a fair characterization, you just don't have the same data available to you. Thanks for the props. It means a lot to me personally.
Many small clusters just do not deliver on a lot of the value of Kubernetes. Clusters are still hard boundaries to cross (working to fix that). Utilization and efficiency are capped. OpEx goes up quickly. There are…
I understand the emotional response here, but I don't think it's rational. GKE has to work as a business, or else the whole thing is in trouble. I think GKE provides tons of value, but people tend to under-estmate that.…
Google and Google Cloud are largely different businesses, though I understand it's hard to keep that in mind in the context of things like this. I encourage everyone to always stay nimble and keep your eyes on…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22487110
If the main value of GKE over DIY is $73, you should totally DIY. I mostly try not to be too Google-focused here, but I have to say... I'm pretty proud of GKE, and I think it offers a lot of value other than just being…
I think this trend is not good overall, and people will eventually be very unhappy with it. I'd rather help you figure out how to use fewer clusters.
For folks just trying it out, 1 cluster is still free.
LOL. Thanks for the shout out. I am sorry you had a bad experience. Please be assured that we are working on it, and that we take this seriously.
> Why did the people who created Kubernetes all leave Google? Umm, we didn't? > created omega but it never did replace borg It did have material impact on Borg. Sometimes the strategy is simply "we know how to do this,…
Probably not, in truth. It's a great idea and not just for this code, but lots of tricky stuff.
As one of the authors of the original code here, this was the result of several days of intense works by a half dozen people working through every corner case we could dream up, and a bunch we thought of on the spot. It…
As a maintainer: some issues take longer to triage than others. Especially if they are not CRITICAL, and there's a huge holiday season in the midst of it. :) I know I have been involved in a couple which took time to…
There's a perception that this is true, and like all perceptions it is based in reality, but it is not the reality itself. We have plenty of data that shows that people DO get promoted at all levels based on OSS work.
Define "killing kubernetes"? It's still pretty successful and the adoption hasn't slowed in any way I can measure. I promise you that some site you used TODAY is running, at least part of it, on Kubernetes. Google…
This was, literally, one of the arguments for building and releasing kubernetes. The rise of Hadoop made it much harder to justify MapReduce being different. If we just talked about Borg, but didn't ship code, someone…
(Building on my own tweets) Autopilot and Fargate are VERY different solutions to similar problem statements. Autopilot puts compatibility & transparency at the front. It IS GKE. It is integrated in all the same ways…
Since this started by citing me, I feel somewhat obligated to defend my guidance. I stand by it. In an ideal world where apps are totally regular and load is equally balanced and every request is equally expensive and…
Free (zonal) cluster per account, regardless of size, should cover a lot of this, no?
Try KIND. Much better devex.
This is a fair point. We don't have an HA (multi-master) zonal offering either, because mostly people don't want that.
EKS has always had a fee. AKS, well, I don't have any insight into their business, but I have my suspicions.
That is not absolute truth. If it were you would eschew kubernetes altogether and just use VMs. Everything is a tradeoff. If you want total isolation, you pay for it. If you don't want to pay for it, you make more…
Those empty clusters that you get for free cost Google money. Perhaps it never should have been free, because that skewed incentives towards models like this.
I don't think that is at all a fair characterization, you just don't have the same data available to you. Thanks for the props. It means a lot to me personally.
Many small clusters just do not deliver on a lot of the value of Kubernetes. Clusters are still hard boundaries to cross (working to fix that). Utilization and efficiency are capped. OpEx goes up quickly. There are…
I understand the emotional response here, but I don't think it's rational. GKE has to work as a business, or else the whole thing is in trouble. I think GKE provides tons of value, but people tend to under-estmate that.…
Google and Google Cloud are largely different businesses, though I understand it's hard to keep that in mind in the context of things like this. I encourage everyone to always stay nimble and keep your eyes on…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22487110
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22487110
If the main value of GKE over DIY is $73, you should totally DIY. I mostly try not to be too Google-focused here, but I have to say... I'm pretty proud of GKE, and I think it offers a lot of value other than just being…
I think this trend is not good overall, and people will eventually be very unhappy with it. I'd rather help you figure out how to use fewer clusters.
For folks just trying it out, 1 cluster is still free.
LOL. Thanks for the shout out. I am sorry you had a bad experience. Please be assured that we are working on it, and that we take this seriously.
> Why did the people who created Kubernetes all leave Google? Umm, we didn't? > created omega but it never did replace borg It did have material impact on Borg. Sometimes the strategy is simply "we know how to do this,…
Probably not, in truth. It's a great idea and not just for this code, but lots of tricky stuff.
As one of the authors of the original code here, this was the result of several days of intense works by a half dozen people working through every corner case we could dream up, and a bunch we thought of on the spot. It…