> No, they are not the same, and they require different tools Yes they are, and no, they don't. Debugging can be done by writing/deleting/modifying code (e.g., write a test and run it, or add log statements, or remove a…
> You were talking about code writing, now you switched to debugging. Those are wildly different tasks No, they're basically the same thing, intrinsically linked and inseparable. Likely represented together in training…
I've submitted two PRs to fix bugs in open-source system tool last month. Both of these are targeted fixes to highly-specific bugs that existed in this software. The agents I used debugged the issue and implemented…
I was: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50226077
You are completely discounting all of the original code being produced with LLMs. What percentage of LLM-generated code would you estimate is plagiarism? 1% 10%? 90%? 99%?
> It doesn’t matter who the boss is. It’s the same dynamic. I'm guessing you haven't had the displeasure of working for a boss who doesn't code and has no idea what he's paying you for - lucky you. > I was questioning…
Are you under the impression that LLMs take source from the internet and put it on your hard drive? That’s your good faith interpretation of what’s going on?
I don’t know anyone in this situation. No idea how it works in corporations, and I’d rather not find out. I know some people who pay for their own tokens because it lets them do their job in 30 minutes a day, and spend…
Productivity != sales, especially in software, I think. This has been happening for just a few months, less than one project cycle. I think we’re about to see a huge wave of software products. I think it’s possible most…
In my bubble, I’m seeing people write entire software stacks from scratch, single-handedly. At this point it’s clear to me that software engineering has taken off by a factor of 10x-100x, at least in some industry areas…
I have a general tendency to know things. I think it has something to do with my brain. But also, I read about how this tech works. Have you? If so, how are you possibly still confused about this?
You’re confused. This isn’t a “maybe there’s more demand for flying cars than you think!” kind of situation. My dude, nobody is disputing the demand for flying cars. It is fairly obvious, however, that they’re…
I didn’t, because Waymo cars were proof of concept, not proof of wallet size. It is very impressive engineering, just not very useful or ever going to result in any viable product. It’s a dead end. A waste of somebody’s…
Out of curiosity, what is your sad P(>500 people owning a flying Tesla by 2030)?
"The doomer narrative is coming from just a few labs who want to do regulatory capture" narrative is coming from uninformed masses of braindead burnouts who build their worldview on TikTok, have no idea what they're…
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I'm personally more interested in how quickly it uninstalls.
It is common knowledge among most - if not all - civilizations that you do, in fact, need to learn to read in order to know how to read. Anyway, since you want a direct representation of the text - presumably, you…
Some fonts use three lines to draw a triple equals ligature. That, and it is, well, triple long. I’ve never had any problems with distinguishing anything with ligatures. They’re nice to look at, and very easy to read…
Shit, they got me. I underestimated how perceptive the HN crowd is. It’s uncanny.
They clearly weren’t, given that LLMs are just stochastically parroting statistical probabilities. I’ve checked ChatGPT when it came out in 2022 and it was immediately obvious to me that the technology was never going…
They might be, but still, I’ll be difficult to convince that Google’s shitty-ass 10B params instant answer models are good at anything other than cookie recipes and producing farts real fast for real cheap. For what…
It’s anyone’s guess. But when you squint your eyes, LLMs are just a least-effort manifestation of the wider neural net direction we’ve been chipping away at for decades. I don’t give a fuck whether LLMs are here to…
God damn. I respect you for being honest, but… god damn. That’s a pretty low bar.
the unexplained mystery of where the article is
> No, they are not the same, and they require different tools Yes they are, and no, they don't. Debugging can be done by writing/deleting/modifying code (e.g., write a test and run it, or add log statements, or remove a…
> You were talking about code writing, now you switched to debugging. Those are wildly different tasks No, they're basically the same thing, intrinsically linked and inseparable. Likely represented together in training…
I've submitted two PRs to fix bugs in open-source system tool last month. Both of these are targeted fixes to highly-specific bugs that existed in this software. The agents I used debugged the issue and implemented…
I was: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50226077
You are completely discounting all of the original code being produced with LLMs. What percentage of LLM-generated code would you estimate is plagiarism? 1% 10%? 90%? 99%?
> It doesn’t matter who the boss is. It’s the same dynamic. I'm guessing you haven't had the displeasure of working for a boss who doesn't code and has no idea what he's paying you for - lucky you. > I was questioning…
Are you under the impression that LLMs take source from the internet and put it on your hard drive? That’s your good faith interpretation of what’s going on?
I don’t know anyone in this situation. No idea how it works in corporations, and I’d rather not find out. I know some people who pay for their own tokens because it lets them do their job in 30 minutes a day, and spend…
Productivity != sales, especially in software, I think. This has been happening for just a few months, less than one project cycle. I think we’re about to see a huge wave of software products. I think it’s possible most…
In my bubble, I’m seeing people write entire software stacks from scratch, single-handedly. At this point it’s clear to me that software engineering has taken off by a factor of 10x-100x, at least in some industry areas…
I have a general tendency to know things. I think it has something to do with my brain. But also, I read about how this tech works. Have you? If so, how are you possibly still confused about this?
You’re confused. This isn’t a “maybe there’s more demand for flying cars than you think!” kind of situation. My dude, nobody is disputing the demand for flying cars. It is fairly obvious, however, that they’re…
I didn’t, because Waymo cars were proof of concept, not proof of wallet size. It is very impressive engineering, just not very useful or ever going to result in any viable product. It’s a dead end. A waste of somebody’s…
Out of curiosity, what is your sad P(>500 people owning a flying Tesla by 2030)?
"The doomer narrative is coming from just a few labs who want to do regulatory capture" narrative is coming from uninformed masses of braindead burnouts who build their worldview on TikTok, have no idea what they're…
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I'm personally more interested in how quickly it uninstalls.
It is common knowledge among most - if not all - civilizations that you do, in fact, need to learn to read in order to know how to read. Anyway, since you want a direct representation of the text - presumably, you…
Some fonts use three lines to draw a triple equals ligature. That, and it is, well, triple long. I’ve never had any problems with distinguishing anything with ligatures. They’re nice to look at, and very easy to read…
Shit, they got me. I underestimated how perceptive the HN crowd is. It’s uncanny.
They clearly weren’t, given that LLMs are just stochastically parroting statistical probabilities. I’ve checked ChatGPT when it came out in 2022 and it was immediately obvious to me that the technology was never going…
They might be, but still, I’ll be difficult to convince that Google’s shitty-ass 10B params instant answer models are good at anything other than cookie recipes and producing farts real fast for real cheap. For what…
It’s anyone’s guess. But when you squint your eyes, LLMs are just a least-effort manifestation of the wider neural net direction we’ve been chipping away at for decades. I don’t give a fuck whether LLMs are here to…
God damn. I respect you for being honest, but… god damn. That’s a pretty low bar.
the unexplained mystery of where the article is