I’m simply very curious about the subject, it’s super important :)! Given that, I’m also frustrated with what seems like a popular lack of critical thought and curiosity on the specifics. In these comments, when I’ve…
What we’ve been doing has produced a lot of impressive stuff, but not intelligence, has it? Again, hard to tell without a good definition.
We must improve this thing so it can finally tell us definitively what we’re building :)
The person you originally replied to and I disagree that we have any real, practical definition. I can recognize what humans and to an extent animals do as intelligent, but haven’t seen a definition that separates that…
How can we expect anything of intelligence (the criteria for testing) if we can’t define it to begin with?
That’s a good start, but doesn’t help us since even the most basic programs can fit that definition and are not what we mean when we say AGI. I have yet to see anything approaching a useful definition of intelligence…
Ok, I’ll give you the lightbulb point :). But we can hardly define intelligence, let alone “entirely understand” it. A child could give a good , practical definition of fire and manipulate it skillfully thousands of…
Grog could define fire in a very real way even back then, which is how he knew he’d so easily created it . It is hard for us to even know intelligence (the one we mean in AGI) when we see it, much less create it, no?
Where could I find a good definition of intelligence? At least the intelligence aimed for when we talk about general ai?
That sounds a bit early - whats your source? This one says at least mid 19th century for not practical electric lights https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-light-bulb But either way, is knowing the electron knowing…
What are other examples of things we engineer before knowing what they are? I’m honestly having trouble thinking of any. And I think it’s a shame we haven’t considered what the limits are on “intelligence” very much.…
In this case, it’s not so much the mechanisms of pharma we wouldn’t know, but what it is we’re even trying to cure - not having a definition of the disease or it’s symptoms and yet trying to engineer a cure would be…
Hadn’t it been thoroughly studied and understood for over 100 years at that point? Ben Franklin was studying it, after all.
I’m simply very curious about the subject, it’s super important :)! Given that, I’m also frustrated with what seems like a popular lack of critical thought and curiosity on the specifics. In these comments, when I’ve…
What we’ve been doing has produced a lot of impressive stuff, but not intelligence, has it? Again, hard to tell without a good definition.
We must improve this thing so it can finally tell us definitively what we’re building :)
The person you originally replied to and I disagree that we have any real, practical definition. I can recognize what humans and to an extent animals do as intelligent, but haven’t seen a definition that separates that…
How can we expect anything of intelligence (the criteria for testing) if we can’t define it to begin with?
That’s a good start, but doesn’t help us since even the most basic programs can fit that definition and are not what we mean when we say AGI. I have yet to see anything approaching a useful definition of intelligence…
Ok, I’ll give you the lightbulb point :). But we can hardly define intelligence, let alone “entirely understand” it. A child could give a good , practical definition of fire and manipulate it skillfully thousands of…
Grog could define fire in a very real way even back then, which is how he knew he’d so easily created it . It is hard for us to even know intelligence (the one we mean in AGI) when we see it, much less create it, no?
Where could I find a good definition of intelligence? At least the intelligence aimed for when we talk about general ai?
That sounds a bit early - whats your source? This one says at least mid 19th century for not practical electric lights https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-light-bulb But either way, is knowing the electron knowing…
What are other examples of things we engineer before knowing what they are? I’m honestly having trouble thinking of any. And I think it’s a shame we haven’t considered what the limits are on “intelligence” very much.…
In this case, it’s not so much the mechanisms of pharma we wouldn’t know, but what it is we’re even trying to cure - not having a definition of the disease or it’s symptoms and yet trying to engineer a cure would be…
Hadn’t it been thoroughly studied and understood for over 100 years at that point? Ben Franklin was studying it, after all.