I think they would stay at Google (in its current state). Google is getting big but is still not as big as Microsoft (political). Google has more data (I would imagine that is something search folks want more of).…
DevDiv makes about $1 billion for MS. Office on the other hand makes about $18 billion. So in terms of politics Office gets to decide what tools they use for the most part. Office sees it as a risk in terms of profit…
What I meant by unsustainable is that I feel the retaining talent problem is less related to money. My guess is smart people are leaving mostly because of the environment and not because of pay and benefits. When those…
I'll admit some of the disdain is related to the process with no consideration for the the actual product itself. The taste in my mouth after Dev10 makes me unhappy and my desire to leave MS seems to align with yours:…
Google/MS/Amazon do have some VERY smart developers. But there are dolts too at the big ones. The fact that you realize there are better developers than you puts you above most. A lot at MS think that because they work…
Give larger raises with promotions would be my guess. MS likes to promote (expect more) and then give below inflation raises.
Very true. A lot of 2010 perf hit is because of WPF. Real hardware and a good video card is required. I never dreamed that a decent video card would be required for a text editor but it is.
I have been an SDET on VS2010. The real problem with VS in the past few years as it has move away from native. Everything is managed managed managed! We have left internal (Office) and external (lots and lots of folks)…
As an insider I think those numbers also include bonuses for Microsoft numbers at least. And being on the inside we are told we are paid on average more than industry. That may be true at face value but I really think…
I think they would stay at Google (in its current state). Google is getting big but is still not as big as Microsoft (political). Google has more data (I would imagine that is something search folks want more of).…
DevDiv makes about $1 billion for MS. Office on the other hand makes about $18 billion. So in terms of politics Office gets to decide what tools they use for the most part. Office sees it as a risk in terms of profit…
What I meant by unsustainable is that I feel the retaining talent problem is less related to money. My guess is smart people are leaving mostly because of the environment and not because of pay and benefits. When those…
I'll admit some of the disdain is related to the process with no consideration for the the actual product itself. The taste in my mouth after Dev10 makes me unhappy and my desire to leave MS seems to align with yours:…
Google/MS/Amazon do have some VERY smart developers. But there are dolts too at the big ones. The fact that you realize there are better developers than you puts you above most. A lot at MS think that because they work…
Give larger raises with promotions would be my guess. MS likes to promote (expect more) and then give below inflation raises.
Very true. A lot of 2010 perf hit is because of WPF. Real hardware and a good video card is required. I never dreamed that a decent video card would be required for a text editor but it is.
I have been an SDET on VS2010. The real problem with VS in the past few years as it has move away from native. Everything is managed managed managed! We have left internal (Office) and external (lots and lots of folks)…
As an insider I think those numbers also include bonuses for Microsoft numbers at least. And being on the inside we are told we are paid on average more than industry. That may be true at face value but I really think…