Having to use lambdas just to get the syntax to allow for a one liner makes your point about reformatting.
Rust is also new and hot
sun used to, and now oracle does make money of machines the language is supposed to run on. now counting two and two together ... I'm not implying anything :)
> enough sources of "random" genetic variation well, that's the kind of thing the GP wants to put in numbers and a mathematical system, to provide substantial arguments.
Well, that's the main feature of a web server, besides the obvious sending of responses? The usual notion is of requests and responses, routing seems to be an avant-garde term, in this domain.
I somehow missed your actual arguments for flask, so my impression of you over-enthusiastically praising flask was all wrong, sorry. Still, if Flask does everything for you, what are students left to learn? A lot, i…
> and the people who get the most upset by that notion are often those who have taught 0 students Does that apply to you?
Writing web apps or servers are two different things. well, mostly ... almost, at least if you teach for productive use. especially for anyone who just started coding, a few lines of python can be a lot, so KISS.
Routing is done by a router, not a server. a server serves. Does that really need to be said? Edit: to clarify, I read about "routing" in "web-apps" now and then. I have problems figuring out, although it seems to be…
> Why are we trying to teach programming using all the fancy tools and technologies used in production systems Wait, either a) PHP isn't a production system, :) or b) you are blaming yourself for using it, or c) ...
I was wondering about your comment on quartz composer, before I noticed that "cisual" is a typo ... I started out on Visual Basic, it certainly helped to lower the barrier to entry a little bit. In the end it was all…
With the amount of supporting and abstracting classes supporting the wrapped ones, of grunt work done already, it sure as hell is high level. Visual Programming is not a paradigm like functional or declarative. In this…
Please, do go on!
Instead of text editing, sliders and knobs to manipulate values work well. Music lends itself well to graphic interfaces, because of it's sequential nature, you don't usually work with text or conditionals. Especially…
> I never claimed forking is expensive. I said it's expensive ... yeah, no that seems to be exactly what you are saying. just nitpickinkg.
Had to read that twice to catch it
On the plus side, it did take a stab at what algorithms he knew, too.
For windows to linux there is NSIS. I don't know how it works, but seems to convert something at some point.
I'm sorry, i love talking semantics and that's what this discussion is, if you question the meaning of embedded. That word is not well defined, afaict, and i was just trying to add some perspective. > I would be…
Android is not a good example, for one, the usecase is almost no different to the desktop, except for the issue with power efficiency . secondly, the real time part of the system, ie. the controllers, doesn't run…
Having to use lambdas just to get the syntax to allow for a one liner makes your point about reformatting.
Rust is also new and hot
sun used to, and now oracle does make money of machines the language is supposed to run on. now counting two and two together ... I'm not implying anything :)
> enough sources of "random" genetic variation well, that's the kind of thing the GP wants to put in numbers and a mathematical system, to provide substantial arguments.
Well, that's the main feature of a web server, besides the obvious sending of responses? The usual notion is of requests and responses, routing seems to be an avant-garde term, in this domain.
I somehow missed your actual arguments for flask, so my impression of you over-enthusiastically praising flask was all wrong, sorry. Still, if Flask does everything for you, what are students left to learn? A lot, i…
> and the people who get the most upset by that notion are often those who have taught 0 students Does that apply to you?
Writing web apps or servers are two different things. well, mostly ... almost, at least if you teach for productive use. especially for anyone who just started coding, a few lines of python can be a lot, so KISS.
Routing is done by a router, not a server. a server serves. Does that really need to be said? Edit: to clarify, I read about "routing" in "web-apps" now and then. I have problems figuring out, although it seems to be…
> Why are we trying to teach programming using all the fancy tools and technologies used in production systems Wait, either a) PHP isn't a production system, :) or b) you are blaming yourself for using it, or c) ...
I was wondering about your comment on quartz composer, before I noticed that "cisual" is a typo ... I started out on Visual Basic, it certainly helped to lower the barrier to entry a little bit. In the end it was all…
With the amount of supporting and abstracting classes supporting the wrapped ones, of grunt work done already, it sure as hell is high level. Visual Programming is not a paradigm like functional or declarative. In this…
Please, do go on!
Instead of text editing, sliders and knobs to manipulate values work well. Music lends itself well to graphic interfaces, because of it's sequential nature, you don't usually work with text or conditionals. Especially…
> I never claimed forking is expensive. I said it's expensive ... yeah, no that seems to be exactly what you are saying. just nitpickinkg.
Had to read that twice to catch it
On the plus side, it did take a stab at what algorithms he knew, too.
For windows to linux there is NSIS. I don't know how it works, but seems to convert something at some point.
I'm sorry, i love talking semantics and that's what this discussion is, if you question the meaning of embedded. That word is not well defined, afaict, and i was just trying to add some perspective. > I would be…
Android is not a good example, for one, the usecase is almost no different to the desktop, except for the issue with power efficiency . secondly, the real time part of the system, ie. the controllers, doesn't run…