Mmm yeah...just straight releasing the water isn't ideal. But of course, it's free! And that's what society optimizes for, sadly.
Which is such a capitalist lens to look at things through. Optimizing for a very small window of reality. It's the same sort of optimization that drives behaviors where corporations feel no need to contribute to…
That's interesting...I don't think I've seen the data to support this
And between them and Intel, their code for their wpa supplicant and driver interaction is absolute dog shit in WiFi 7 land.
But why...it doesn't solve a problem we currently face. We aren't even anywhere near 10Gbps in RF. And that's assuming you are maxing all three bands.
The entire solarwinds platform(barf)
>Are YOU working for a non profit? yes....it was the "least evil" choice
Corporation cannot help but act this way. They are too big. The pressures for profit are all that matters. That is the priority. It doesn't matter what colorful words they put on the paper to make you feel better. Look…
It feels like a systems problem. It seems like the same theme that we see in for say, startup to corporate transformation. I think ultimately it comes down to size. They become too big and the power consumes. And they…
>Systems are designed for humans, if they fail to account for human nature then they're bad systems. Systems will always be bad. It's why corporations will always be bad. The complexities are too much for humans. You…
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Nah, nothing wrong with nice things. But if those nice things only exist because someone else on the planet had to suffer....
This is true up until it isn't. Their security is through obscurity. Being able to deflect the masses. Manipulating the balance, if you will. But they are not special. They are still unprotected sacks of flesh. And…
That is exactly the type of pacificity that plays into their hand. Life is good and bad at the same time. It is important to hold those two at the same time.
Exactly this. They live in houses with glass windows. We could take this world any time we choose.
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Yup, and here we are continues to pile on.
Right, so RF issues will possibly exist on all frequencies. And yet we continue to build devices on the most congested spectrum available.
Likely not a bad way to clean money.
True for devices under your control. But think venues with large BYOD counts. Add in that all client devices generally transmit at full power. End result is an environment with not a lot of headroom in the 2.4 space.
Yes and in some uses cases it works against you. 2.4 is incredibly crowded without adding 802.11 to the mix. My IoT admins would have less complaints if they could take advantage of my small cell 5Ghz spectrum. This…
>My 2.4ghz is basically all IOT these days. Yup. And it's exactly why some of my IoT admins are struggling. There is only so much spectrum to go around.
Yes. And 2.4 lives and dies by that sword. What downsides might there be in areas where dozens of APs hear each other and 100s of clients hear each other?
Is what you described a truth for all IoT devices? If I have los of my AP, why do I need 2.4Ghz? Even so, what SNR do you truly need for this low bandwidth application? Where is the engineering here? I have a unique…
I don't understand what possesses these folks to continue making 2.4ghz devices. I understand there are use cases for low bandwidth, high range. But surely we've passed the point where that is more desirable to most…
Mmm yeah...just straight releasing the water isn't ideal. But of course, it's free! And that's what society optimizes for, sadly.
Which is such a capitalist lens to look at things through. Optimizing for a very small window of reality. It's the same sort of optimization that drives behaviors where corporations feel no need to contribute to…
That's interesting...I don't think I've seen the data to support this
And between them and Intel, their code for their wpa supplicant and driver interaction is absolute dog shit in WiFi 7 land.
But why...it doesn't solve a problem we currently face. We aren't even anywhere near 10Gbps in RF. And that's assuming you are maxing all three bands.
The entire solarwinds platform(barf)
>Are YOU working for a non profit? yes....it was the "least evil" choice
Corporation cannot help but act this way. They are too big. The pressures for profit are all that matters. That is the priority. It doesn't matter what colorful words they put on the paper to make you feel better. Look…
It feels like a systems problem. It seems like the same theme that we see in for say, startup to corporate transformation. I think ultimately it comes down to size. They become too big and the power consumes. And they…
>Systems are designed for humans, if they fail to account for human nature then they're bad systems. Systems will always be bad. It's why corporations will always be bad. The complexities are too much for humans. You…
[dead]
Nah, nothing wrong with nice things. But if those nice things only exist because someone else on the planet had to suffer....
This is true up until it isn't. Their security is through obscurity. Being able to deflect the masses. Manipulating the balance, if you will. But they are not special. They are still unprotected sacks of flesh. And…
That is exactly the type of pacificity that plays into their hand. Life is good and bad at the same time. It is important to hold those two at the same time.
Exactly this. They live in houses with glass windows. We could take this world any time we choose.
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Yup, and here we are continues to pile on.
Right, so RF issues will possibly exist on all frequencies. And yet we continue to build devices on the most congested spectrum available.
Likely not a bad way to clean money.
True for devices under your control. But think venues with large BYOD counts. Add in that all client devices generally transmit at full power. End result is an environment with not a lot of headroom in the 2.4 space.
Yes and in some uses cases it works against you. 2.4 is incredibly crowded without adding 802.11 to the mix. My IoT admins would have less complaints if they could take advantage of my small cell 5Ghz spectrum. This…
>My 2.4ghz is basically all IOT these days. Yup. And it's exactly why some of my IoT admins are struggling. There is only so much spectrum to go around.
Yes. And 2.4 lives and dies by that sword. What downsides might there be in areas where dozens of APs hear each other and 100s of clients hear each other?
Is what you described a truth for all IoT devices? If I have los of my AP, why do I need 2.4Ghz? Even so, what SNR do you truly need for this low bandwidth application? Where is the engineering here? I have a unique…
I don't understand what possesses these folks to continue making 2.4ghz devices. I understand there are use cases for low bandwidth, high range. But surely we've passed the point where that is more desirable to most…